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The travel costs took me by surprise a little.

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wow! those day rates are steep even if you're talking 1x1 and unless those are superb specimens the TFs are on the uphill side too!

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I don't think so. I have looked at various african outfitters and this one looked the best to me. Take in mind it is for 10 days, we can go as a group of 4 and stay only for 5 days, then it is $2000 per person. Flights and throphy fees excluded. We will each have our own guide daily, all meals, drinks, transfers, insurance, etc, are included.
The place is absolutely beautifull, great chalets, swiming pool, etc.

Where can you find it cheaper? I don't really mind where I go, as long as I get what I pay for, which is the case with these guys.

I will see if they can send me some pics of the throphies roaming the area as well as picture of the lodge.

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I've been to Africa to hunt PG & DG many times. Most the PG hunting was done in Namibia's north west section 4-6 hours north of WDH international, depending on whom I hunted with at the time. A quick reference of one of those places' website shows daily fees for 1x1 in 5 star lodging and 5 star food @ $280/day. all the extras like laundry, reasonable amts of beer,etc included
A typical PG pkg there with refundable TF(no blood drawn of course) 1 kudu 50"+, 1 oryx bull 36"+ ,1 Hartman's zebra, 1 warthog, 8 full hunting days 1x1 additional days @$280/day, pickup/return WDH and a 1 day side trip to Etosha Park with shopping excursion enroute back to WDH runs $4200 total ..you supply air to/from home to WDH.
You could pay $280/day 1x1 and shop off the TF rate pg an example is a kudu bull 50"+ $750, red hartebeast $650, warthog $ 375,leopard $3500 all USD.
I've been there several times and have sent many of my family memebers and friends there as well. Top notch PH, owners,camp staff,etc.

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Well, I am glad I posted this. Getting all this info help plenty!
What is the name of these outfitters so I can check them out

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I started my PH career almost 30 years ago and one of the most important things I've learned in that time is that one of the most important things about choosing an African hunting safari is that quality is imperative. - My advice would be not to look at the cheapest hunt you can buy, but instead, choose the most expensive hunting safari you can possibly afford. If you were buying a car that you wanted to use on a daily basis and keep your and your family's life safe, you wouldn't buy a US$100 puddle jumper, you'd buy the best you can afford. - The same risks and the same choices need to be considered.

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Let me add that if you can e-mail me at shakari3@mweb.co.za, I'll be happy to send you a copy of a piece I've written as part of a book that covers how you should choose an African hunting safari that's suitable for your needs.......

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I agree that quality is extremely important and one shouldn't be "cheap" when it comes to planning a hunt. However, there is nothing wrong with comparing safaris to determine the best value.

Why pay more for the same hunt if you don't have to do it?

I compared outifts that offer the same quality of hunt and are highly reputable, but one is several thousands of dollars more - why pay it?

I think in the one situation, they are more expensive because they are frequently featured on TV.

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Shakari aren't you in the PH/owner/operator business yourself? Or are you a booking agent/
I don't have a problem if you are BUT you should disclose that type of thing before making suggestions of whom to book with....not that you did in your recent post but itlooks as though you're headed that way with the email suggestion.

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Single Malt

Yes, I'm a full time PH, own my own safari company that operates in a variety of African countries (biggest/most popular operation is in Tanzania). Most years, I spend 2-3 months a year hunting Botswana and 5-6 months a year hunting and guiding photo safaris in Tanzania, plus a few weeks hunting elsewhere and I write for a variety of hunting magazines, including African Sporting Gazette and African Hunter. (you might like to check the most recent ASG for an example of my work)........... which is why I began my post with the words 'I began my PH training almost 30 years ago'.

I wasn't trying to hide anything at all, but as I don't advertise here, I feel it's unfair to mention what I do for a living any more than necessary. (it's also against forum rules) - My company details are not in my signature line for the same reasons, but if you check my profile, you'll find my website address there. I understand that does comply with the forum rules.

If you re-read my post, I didn't make any suggestion as to who to book with, I just suggested I'd be happy to send a copy of a piece I've written as part of a book which addresses the subject of what to look for when selecting an African hunting safari suitable for your needs......... in fact, the article actually points out some circumstances where I wouldn't be the right PH for some clients....... it also talks about how to research safari companies and areas etc and how to decide what you want and can reasonably expect from a hunt etc.

My intention wasn't some kind of secret marketing ploy...... frankly, I don't need to do that. I've been in the business so long now, we don't advertise, we don't attend conventions, we don't make hunt donations and we hardly ever use agents........ and I still don't really have enough hours in the day to get everything done. All I was trying to do, was shed light on a subject that's very complicated...... esp for a first timer and always very expensive for the hunter....... it's always a shame to hear of someone spending a bucketful of money and ending up with an unsuitable safari........ All I was trying to do was be helpful and as always, I deliberately avoided any marketing............

The reason I asked to do it by e-mail, is that I can't send attachments by PM and not only would it be wrong to post the entire article here as that although it can be viewed as a stand alone article, it is in fact, part of a yet unfinished book....... If you like, you can send me your e-mail address and I'll be happy to send it to you - you can then read it and then come back on here and tell us if you consider it advertising or if you think it's been written in an unbiased fashion etc.

Hope that helps explain matters........ and also hope that it doesn't sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet...... but if I'm gonna explain things, I need to explain them fully! Thumbs up

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