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Dobermann is talking Fox and Deer at 600 to 700 meters, about 1/2 a mile.

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You shouldn't be shooting at game animals at distances like that, I don't care what the ''rationale'' is.

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There are those that find a need to attempt to go beyond the limits. The drop of any round, even the wizzbang of wizzbangs, at those ranges is going to be so severe that you would have to know the exact range of the critter. A 10 yard miscalculation is a two foot difference in trajectory. These long range target shooters have a specific distance precalculated. I hope he doesn't attempt one of these shots, but if he does I hope he uses a round that is capable of delivering the amount of energy that would be necessary.

There is a rifle builder down in Arizona that builds a custom rifle for those little desert blacktail, (change that to coues), at 600+ yds. From what I've read, he was going out after these blacktails and could never get close enough for a shot with a standard rifle. Hence he built this specialty gun.

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What bugs me out about this sort of thing is these people unfortunately do hit a lot of the animals, but they wound them and then fail to recover them. Then someone else finds the animal, sometimes, and an animal laying dead in the woods with a bullet hole through its rear haunch that debilitated it and caused it to eventually die from shock and infection does not paint a flattering portrait of hunters. I say save that crap for the target range. It has no place in the hunting field. As for the desert blacktails, BS. That guy is entirely full of it. With this disturbing trend toward the wizzbangs and ultra-long shooting, it just figures that somebody would be catering to that particular market. Lots of people hunt blacktails, including a few people I know, and this is the first I've heard of shots much over 300 yards.

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A good high powered hunting rifle zeroed 3" high at 100 yds has a point blank range from the end of the barrel out to 325 to 375 yds, depending on the cartridge. The farther down the range you zero your bullet the shorter the point blank range gets. When you start zeroing to ranges of 600 and 700 yds, the point blank range shrinks to distances of 75 yds or less. that isn't much leeway. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable attemting a shot, such as that, even if the bullet delivered enough energy to get the job done. It doesn't matter what kind of wizzbang cartridge a person desides to use. None of them have ray gun trajectories. Especially beyond 400 yds.

Checked the article about the Arizona rifle builder. I called it wrong on the little desert blacktail. They are the little desert white tail or coues deer.

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A 200 yard zero is the best zero, in my opinion, because this keeps the bullet close to the sightline both before it reaches that distance, and even out to 400 yards, its no so far off, a little holdover and that's it for most of the high power calibers like the 270 and up. Most of this super long-range chit-chat is done by amateurs, this is not the first hunting board I've been on, this kind of stuff goes on quite a bit. Another one that just kills me is to go into a thread and see someone peeing and moaning because they can't get smaller than one-inch groups at 100 yards. Want .10-inch groups? BUY AN M40A1 SNIPER RIFLE! eye roll

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