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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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absolute best elk cartridge? let's hear it folks

Had a marlin 444, but never shot any of the leverution ammo. I eventually traded because it was a little redundant for me. I have, and love, two 45/70's. You can pretty much handload a 45/70 to similar specs of the 444. However, I have heard that the leverution cartridges are pretty nifty. The 444 is actually pretty high velocity and flat shooting for a lever gun, particularly with the new heaters they are putting out for it.

Don, if you've got a nice, custom made, straight shooting 30-06, why rebarrel it? You could always spend a few hundred on a ruger or remington 30-06 and rebarrel it with little work at all if you really want the 338-06. No reason to change or mess with an old favorite that shoots where you point it, even if it is just an odd six (just kidding, that's a cliche that never was really that witty). I may of said this earlier, but I rebarreled a ruger mark II -06 to a 338-06. I'm very fond of it, but I am considering trading it, with a couple other rifles, for a new 375 H&H mauser. Never had a mauser, but always wanted one. Probably end up rebarreling it etc., as I have a hard time leaving anything alone. I also have a hard time keeping the same guns in the safe for too long. I've got the bug pretty bad, but I, and my wife, have learned to just roll with it.

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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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absolute best elk cartridge? let's hear it folks

Also, if you have trouble shooting a 338 winny off the bench, why not spend a little cash and get a lead sled? Obviously recoil isn't much of an issue while hunting, and you can pretty much kill it while sighting it in with a good limb saver pad and a lead sled. You could even get a good muzzle break if you wanted to go that way. I don't particularly like them because of the muzzle blast, but I had a smith put one on a 338 win mag that is absolutely amazing and doesn't increase the muzzle blast to the a point that I even notice. The smith challenged me to turn my back and tell whether or not it was on. Obviously it's removable, so you could shoot at the range with it and then take it off while hunting. Although, these things work so well that you really wouldn't need to. I think the breaks were made by vais, or something along those lines (don't really remember). I'm considering putting one on my pig killer (416 remy, which is actually not bad in terms of recoil), but I'd bet they work best on true magnumesque type rifles (high speed bullets). My point, don't let a little recoil slow you down. Oh yeah, a glass of scotch and two advil work well too.

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Location: Phila., PA
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absolute best elk cartridge? let's hear it folks

The answer to this and almost any "best cartridge/caliber" question....
It really comes down to what you are most comfortable shooting and/or what you shoot best.
Couple this up with a bullet constructed properly for intended game, place the pill correctly...
Happy and ethical hunting....period!
Yes

tim
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Location: north idaho
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absolute best elk cartridge? let's hear it folks

I love my muzzle breaked .338 win mag.

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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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I'm with you there. I actually enjoy shooting it at the range. Mine now recoils about like a 30-06, nearly negligable relative to some of the other cals I tinker with.

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Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Joined: 09/05/2007
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Favorite Elk Round

9.3mm X 62mm Mauser 250 gr. Nosler Ballitic Tip launched with 59.5 gr. of IMR 4320. AKA the Thumper!

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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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That's a keeper for sure. I shoot a 9.3X74R, generally with 286 grained norma orex...what the rifle is regulated for. I'm trying to find a load that shoots better or just as well with some other and smaller bullets.

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Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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absolute best elk cartridge? let's hear it folks

I don't know many folks in the states that hunt big game with a double rifle. I also own a Merkel double in 93x74. I use the Nosler partition 286 grain and don't see any reason to get any fancier there. Took my first bull with it at 72 yds. in thick forrest unit 5A on the rim in AZ. I hit the shoulder, 12 inch wide blood trail for 25 yards down the hiil. Never did find the heart. Great Round. Brass gets kind of pricey.

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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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I'm just going to try and experiment with a 235 grain so as not to blast too much meat away from white tail deer, and I'm interested in a little flatter trajectory. Changing bullet sizes on a double can get tricky however, so it may be just an exercise in futility. THe 286 grains work well also, but I'd like to be a little more confident at longer ranges.

I don't knw a whole lot of people that hunt in the states with a double either, but I love mine, and I will be taking it to Africa along with my 470 nitro express double.

The 9.3x74r is an accurate enough round that one could scope it and feel confident shooting up tp and around 200 yards, but I just couldn't stand to put a scope on my Chapuis. I'm considering getting a removable unit, but they usually cost a little more than I'm willing to spend. Shooting hogs, elk, and deer with it open sighted is great fun and practice in terms of shooting accuracy and stalking.

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