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9.3x74R or 9.3x62 on brown bears...?

Recently acquired a pretty little 9.3x74R in a chapuis double and am wondering from you bear folks if it would be effective on grizzlies etc (i know it is on hogs, deer, elk, and black bear). They've been used to kill bull elephants several times in the past, although considered rather under powered fo DG by today's standards. However, in certain African countries they are often listed along with the 375 H&H as minimum cal required on DG. I generally shoot 286 grained bullets travelling at speeds of roughly 2400 fps...essentially, it's an underpowered 375. Your thoughts... Oh yeah, the 9.3X62 is the bolt action version of the 9.3X74r (the R stands for rimmed). They are nearly ballistic twins.

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9.3x74R or 9.3x62 on brown bears...?

Maddenwh, I've not killed a brown bear with a 9.3X74R ,but it is intirely adiquate for hunting them. I've seen complete passthrough on heads of elephant with Woodliegh 286 gr solids from a 9.3X74R double Chapuis exactly like youurs. The North fork CPS expanding solids are the only mono-metel solids that are safe to shoot from a double rifle, and they will do a yoaman's job on just about anything. Still I'd rather have the 286 gr Nosler Partitions in my 9.3X74R Merkel double rifle, for the big brownies.

You will love that little Cahpuis double rifle, and you'll soon find out the 9.3X74R double rifle is the best hunting rifle, especially for North America, and is legal, and up to the task in Africa as well. The Chapuis rifles are very accurate as well, if loaded properly to suit the regulation of the barrels.

I personally witnessed Tony ( He posts as 450 Nitro Express, on Accurate Reloading), Shoot a coyote at 278 yds, and hit him with a shot from each barrel. He has also taken Kudu at over 250yds, and killed a couple of elephants, with the little Chapuis. Get in touch with him on AR and he will give you some good loads for your rifle!

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9.3x74R or 9.3x62 on brown bears...?

Thanks for the info. Dugaboy. Let me ask, would you feel comfortable hunting cape buff with this cal.? I know it is perfect for plains game and cats, but I was originally intending to use my 470 merkel and 416 remy for the buff. I love the gun because it's aesthetically attractive, has little recoil, and is extremely light for a double. My 470 becomes quite a burden after a few hours of spooring in the heat.

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9.3x74R or 9.3x62 on brown bears...?

I don't know anything other than what I read about Africa. From what I read, being comfortable with a 9.3 on Buffalo has nothing to do with it. 9.3 is a 366 cal and I believe that all of Africa requires a 375 caliber cartridge.

Here's and irony. I recently read the the cartridge of choice for thinning buffalo is the 220 Swift! Go figure! I have to think that's a bunch of BS but there it was. A 25-06 with a 120gr Barnes TSX would be a much better choice. Think Think bs

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9.3x74R or 9.3x62 on brown bears...?

The 375 H&H, 9.3X62, and 9.3X74R are usually the min. cals. It's not so much a 375 or 366 issue. In many cases they left these three as legal because they were so commonplace at the time and ammo was readily available. In general, if you can use a 375 in a country, you can use a 9.3.

I was just interested in you all's opinions on this. I've heard varying perspectives. Some say a 375 isn't sufficient and some say you don't need anything bigger than a 366. I know a guy that just killed two cow elephants with his 9.3X74r. He said it was his first and last time though because he didn't feel that they were sufficient/powerful enough to use regularly on elephant.

This is getting off the topic, but I guess Dugaboy answered my question with regards to grizzly.

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