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8mm rem mag/7mm stw

I have owned an 8mm rem. mag for years. recently I bought a 7mm STW. I liked the STW as I do a lot of alpine country mule deer hunting and even though it may be "overkill" I still like the round. The reason I went with the STW instead of the rem. mag was that it used the same brass as my 8mm. I thought if I already had one gun that was hard to find ammo for and I was going to get another I might as well be able to use the same brass for both.

The STW is like a sidewinder missile! and the 8mm is like a scud! Impressive rounds...not so impressive on my shoulder though.

Does anybody own either of these rounds?

What are your thoughts about them? What loads do you shoot from each?

Thanks guys

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Hunt Okanogan wrote:

I have owned an 8mm rem. mag for years. recently I bought a 7mm STW. I liked the STW as I do a lot of alpine country mule deer hunting and even though it may be "overkill" I still like the round. The reason I went with the STW instead of the rem. mag was that it used the same brass as my 8mm. I thought if I already had one gun that was hard to find ammo for and I was going to get another I might as well be able to use the same brass for both.

The STW is like a sidewinder missile! and the 8mm is like a scud! Impressive rounds...not so impressive on my shoulder though.

Does anybody own either of these rounds?

What are your thoughts about them? What loads do you shoot from each?

Thanks guys

 

I own neither and have a zero "need" for either.. BUT, if I wanted that kind of performance, I would own a .325 WSM. which I do own....  Dancing

 

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Well, not really the reply I

Well, not really the reply I was looking for but yes the 325 WSM is a good round as well. I bought the 8mm in the pre-WSM days and I'm not a fan of the short mags personaly. I have a friend that shoots one and there's nothing wrong with it though. With the exception that a bear he shot a couple years ago (and hit well) made it a couple miles before being dispatched by a fallow up shot.

If I lived in Tennesee I would only own one deer rifle and call it good.....sure glad I don't live there.

Out here in the west we have a little more variety. I have taken a moose and 3 elk with the 8mm, I'm sure I could've done it with anther rifle. But when hunting large game like that there is deffinatley a "need" for a larger gun.

As to the zero "need" part, it reminds me of a quote I heared once..."I have more guns than I need, not as many as I want"

Anybody own either of these rounds and want to give me their opinions?

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I probably wasn't as clear as

I probably wasn't as clear as I meant to be earlier. But my comments were not made to degrade either of you choices, as they are certainly fine ones for your needs, no doubt. I was trying to say, that although I really don't need either, among the 30+ chamberings I do own, I bought a .325 anyway, just because. As you said, it's also my opinion that one can never have too much of a good thing.... Thumbs up

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I don't own either of the

I don't own either of the calibers you mentioned, but do own a 8mm Mauser which I'm going to improve to 8mm-06.  I personally like the 8mm becuase of the offerings it provides in bullet weights.  Also, with the .323 diameter bullet, it'll deliver more energy than the 7mm or .308.  Not saying either of those are inferior, I just like the "fatter" 8mm more.  Another plus I see with your calibers, the 8mm Rem. Mag. will shoot flat making it a great western caliber if you plan on coming out here and going Antelope, Mule Deer, or Elk hunting.

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After the post about the 325

After the post about the 325 WSM I went and did some ballistic research. It is a fabalous round evidentialy. I had been a short mag "hater" since their introduction. Probly because I thought they were a fad that would die out and the ammo would become impossible to find. Wichester got it right with that line though. Something about the cases made them very efficient indeed. The 325 WSM has a slight ballistic advantage over the 8mm rem mag with factory loads. I load  my own and get much better than the TWO factory loads that are availible though.

The 8mm mauser is the classic of classics! Great round all by itself. But the action is where that gun realy shines. Just ask anyone who wildcats loads. Dang near every wildcat rifle out there is built on a mauser 98 action. The krut's got it right back in the day because it's still super popular.

The lighter bullets in the .323 cal are pretty much designed for the 8mm mauser instead of the rem. mag and the high velocitys can do some bad things to them so it limits what I can load in my magnum. But you with the mauser can load any of the .323 bullets and get away with it so you have a great selection to choose from. Granted the options are no where near what they make in .30 cal but good eough to play around with some loads.

I have a sweedish mauser in a 6.5x55 and really like it. Mauser....classic

 

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8X57

This is perzackly what I think about the 8X57....

http://www.chuckhawks.com/forgotten_8x57.htm

 

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7MM STW

I had a 7MM STW for 6 years, it was a great calber. Would shoot Sub MOA at 100 yds. One thing i found is that at the velocities it is capable of you have to shoot premium bullets anything less will come apart on impact out to about 200 yds. For deer i used a 140gr  barnes x and it was awesome, i also had 175gr nosler partitions going through the chronograph at 3121 fps, but never shot a moose with them.  IMO i don't think you would be disappointed with one if you stick with premium bullets, i loved mine but moved into a 338win mag

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8mm rem mag/7mm stw

I live in Wyoming and use my Winchester model 70 ,7mmstw for whitetail, muley`s and elk.

I shoot factory loads in Remington 140 grain corelock. It satisfies all my needs. I have learned to take liver shots on the animals as to not distroy the whole front half of the animal. I will take head shots on these animals out to 150 yards. I guess thats the only thing I don`t like about the caliber is it does ruin alot of meat if taking a shoulder shot. With the factory loads I can get a 4 inch group with 5 rounds at 100 yards out to 300 yards I can get a 8 inch group with 3 rounds. I am going to have to start reloading as the ammo has been discontinued.

Goodluck hunting.

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I own an 8MM Remingtom  Mag

I own an 8MM Remingtom  Mag in a 700 BDL and love it. I use a 220 grain Sierra for elk. It works great. Its my go to Elk rifle.

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intrechanging cases

baddaddy wrote:

I own an 8MM Remingtom  Mag in a 700 BDL and love it. I use a 220 grain Sierra for elk. It works great. Its my go to Elk rifle.

 

Being able to interchange case's for them could be a bit undesireable. Shoot the 7mm in the 8mm chamber al the bullet might make it a few yards out the barrel and hit the ground, not enough pressure build up. but shoot the 8mm in the 7mm barret and you'll get a lot more pressure that you might be able to stand. My sson showing off for a friend years ago grabbed my 308 and went out to show him how well it shot. He took a box of ammo I made up by sizing down Lake City Match cases. OOPS! Now I have a 6.5x06 and I have used 30-06, 280, 270 and 25-06 case's to make the case's from. I finally occured to me the same mistake coulf be made again so now I use 270 case's. I don't have a 270 and nom plane's to buy one.