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The 7mm .08 for a Kid

Howdy folks. Lookin for a few opinions on this subject. Gonna be taking my girlfriends son out onna hunt this year. HIS VERY FIRST. Goona go smack a Bison/boar combo hunt. Now ive shot a couple of 7mm.08's one being a Kimber and the Other a Remington... Its been a little while since I shot them but if I remember correctly they were VERY forgiving on recoil. I am thinking seriously on getting the new TC encore pro hunter setup and Getting him the .08 barrel. He is 13 but built like an 11 year old (hopefully when I move there Ill be a fixin that with some fine wild table fare) Anyone here have a .08 and can lemmi know if they think he will be able to handle it? I HATE the .243 for him simply because he would have to be a master at shot placement with that small a caliber even for deer....I figure with the 7mm 140 grain bonded He will have plenty of booty behind him and a fine trajectory. So he can go for a good lung shot (bigger target) and be fine. Thanks in advance

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The kid might well be able to handle the 7mm-08 alright but, on Bison I'd think the 140gr bullet is a bit light. How about limiting him to shooting the boar for now and come along on the bison hunt? I would certainly get him out shooting if you haven't already. Then it'll get real obvious what he can handle. Also if you handload, you could load him up some light 160gr loads. If he's alright with them, just start working up in power until you find his comfort zone with the heavier bullet. Actually I'd use the 160gr for boar also as to much is better than to little. Good luck.

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well I hate to dissagree but I have seen the mess a 140 grain TB round will do to a HUGE 6x6 elk at 125 yards... Passed right through and flat out destroyed the heart so I dont think its gonna be much of a prob there.....I have been doing alot of research on this caliber and Im seeing ALOT of praise on it. Also ballisticly speaking its right with the .270 in trajection. Muzzel energy as well. So I dont think the weapon will be a problem. Gonna be a meat hunt too so the Bison aint gonna be a lumbering 2000 pounder.....Goin after a good meat size 600 to 800 (yum yum). Im a Fairly large man at 6'3" 240 pounds so recoil really dont bother me much nor do I think about it so this is the main reason for the question....Since he's a tiny lil feller ( my left leg is biggern him and that ma LIL one) I know its gonna be an issue....

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Excuse my ignorance but what's a 140gr TB?

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cam69conv wrote:
well I hate to dissagree but I have seen the mess a 140 grain TB round will do to a HUGE 6x6 elk at 125 yards

There's no comparison between an elk and a bison: even an elk and bison of the same weight due to the different muscle and bone structures of the two animals. I'd seriously reconsider the 7mm-08 on bison.

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I'm going to hazzard a guess and say "type bullet", Don Think Think Think

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TB = trophy bonded,, Sorry Bout that...Imma lazy typer. And yes there is on a MATURE Bull Bison...But as I said earlier the ones we are going for will be 1 1/2 to 2 year olds so the comparison in bone density will be about the same as that of a Mature bull Elk.. This aint ma first rodeo folks and I have shot a few Bison with a .270 but there is NO WAY the boy will be able to handle the recoil from a .270 ( unless I wanted to take him to the hospital with a seperated shoulder and I dont think his mammy would like that to awful much) Like I said Ive asked around and did quite a bit of research on the balistics on the 7mm.08 and I do think with good shot placement I.E. Good quarter away with a behind the shoulder heart shot the .08 will do a fine job on it....Just trying to get the opinion of folks with the .08 as far as recoil. I only know a couple of folks personally that have one and they are both in PA which is a right smart distance for me to go pick him up (in Arizona) and take him to shoot them to see for maself. Guess Ill just squat the cost of the barrel and hope he can handle it. + folks Ill be right there beside him with the old trusty .444 for backup so Im not worried about him gettin ran over. Thanks again for the inputs.

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In that case, yes the 7mm 08 recoil is about as mild as it gets for a big game round, I'm not sure that it's significantly lower than the .270 though...it would probably depend on the actual rifle (semi-auto? rifle weight?).

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TB is a good bullet. On the youth stuff the encore would be a great choice. Check out eabco.com. They have barrels of all caliber and in your case they have bantam stocks for youth. I am not sure if they carry the bantam stocks for the pro-hunter line. A Sims pad can easily be added though to help with recoil. They also offer muzzle brakes that reduce recoil also and they will install it before they ship the barrel. They offer a howitzer type brake that they claim the inventor shoots a 30.06 with the recoil pad on the bridge of his nose and no nose damage!!. These guys know their encores and will be a great place to start. I have an encore in 308 and it is a tack driver. 308 would be a good choice too for the lad. Especially if you put on a muzzle brake and pro hunter stock. Good luck.

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Well Ifn I remember right those 2 .08's I shot were BOTH alot less recoil than my .270. The TC Pro Hunter has the new Sims Labs Flex Tech stock on it and its SUPPOSED to lower felt recoil by 35% Add to that a 28 inch Stainless barrel N I kinna figger the gun will weigh in around 8 pounds er so. The Stock Imma get will be the Thumbhole Flex Tech.. Hes a lil fella but hes got some long arms on him so I dont think It will be too bad for him on the pull length. Not like hes gonna have to come up fast at a runnin deer this year. THAT"LL be NEXT years fun Thumbs up I do think If I was to roll up some 160's It would be better for the knockdown but then thats gonna increase my MAIN concern....Dont want the boy to get that lovely "scope eye" that Im sure all you magnum shooters have experienced one time er another ( got it maself on my old 760 game master 30.06....Damn thing kicked hardern my ex WIFE) OH and as far as muzzel brakes go....I HATE THEM DARN THINGS.....Hurts ma poor old ears even with ear pluggs in. Had one on my old target .50 cal....sucker came off the very next day!!!

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I picked up a 7-08 to use while I reworked my 30-06. I love the round. I hunt pigs with it so there is no comparison is size. The recoil is noticeably less than the 30-06 even though I am shooting a lighter rifle. I notice that the recoil is light enough that at the shot I do not lose the sight picture. The lower recoil really helps in giving me confidence in shot placement. So far all pigs I have taken with it have been one shot kills. I also find that rather than going for lung shots I am shooting behind the ear. This is to minimize meat damage.

Great caliber. Maybe you should consider the 160 grain load for bison?