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7mm-08 effectivness?

I have a couple of buds who are trying to talk me out of buying a 7mm-08 saying that it doesn't have the kill that the 270 or 30.06. They have had the 7mm-08 and sold it because they say when they shot the deer it would never go down and that they had to search for hours to find it. After getting their 270 and 30.06 they have had just about all their deer drop dead in their tracks.

Your opinions? Should I tell them that they are poor shots and that I am getting the 7mm-08 over the 270 and 30.06 because it is just as an effective round?

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There is nothing inherently wrong with the 7mm-08 on deer sized animals. The caliber has light recoil and is accurate. The 140 grain bullet is plenty for any whitetail. Shot placement is probably what got your buddies into trouble. Any of the calibers mentioned here will kill a deer. There will be more energy with the 30-06 due to a heavier bullet and more velocity. But killing power still comes down to shot placement. I guessing your buddies may have had a couple shots go bad. I have personally had deer run off with a 30-06 as well as some magnum cartridges. I have never used the 7mm-08 but have used the 308 from which the case of the 7mm-08 is derived and have had great success with one shot immediate knock downs of deer. Not much difference in recoil either out of the 308. Not trying to talk you out of the 7mm-08 but the 308 ammo is cheaper and the gun will allow for more bullet weight choices as well. Not to mention the unbeliveable accuracy out of the 308. Just my two cents. Good luck.

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If a 243 (another 308 neck down) kills deer (and it does) the larger 7-08 will too. All you need to do is practice a little more than your buddies and make the shot Thumbs up . I think the 7-08 should be an excellent WT deer round.

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there is nothing wrong with the 7-08 it is one of the best deer cartridges around. my son has killed some nice bucks with it and it is all shot placement .as long as you do your part that deer wont tell the diferanc between an06 or the 7-08 Thumbs up

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Craig Boddington, the outdoor writer, took his teenage daughter to Africa where she used the 7mm-08 with a 150 gr bullet to take a 600 or 700# Zebra with one shot, plus several other species of plains game. If she can drop an animal the size of an Elk with one shot from a 7mm-08, and your buddies can't drop a deer, I would say that they must be poor shots!! I shoot a 7mm-08 and have no trouble droping deer!

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Cartridge's don't kill anything. Proper bullet's, properly placed by practiced riflemen do.

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Re: 7mm-08 effectivness?
BBQ Boy wrote:
I have a couple of buds who are trying to talk me out of buying a 7mm-08 saying that it doesn't have the kill that the 270 or 30.06. They have had the 7mm-08 and sold it because they say when they shot the deer it would never go down and that they had to search for hours to find it. After getting their 270 and 30.06 they have had just about all their deer drop dead in their tracks.

Your opinions? Should I tell them that they are poor shots and that I am getting the 7mm-08 over the 270 and 30.06 because it is just as an effective round?

I would get the .270 or 30-06 regardless. I read that the 7mm-08 does not have as much choice in bullets as the other two mentioned.

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Did you ask your friends what bullets they were using? If it is not due to shot placement, could it be bullet failure? I have friends whot shot axis deer with a 300WM and had them run off.

I hunt pigs with my 7mm-08. I shot 5 last spring. 4 dropped in their tracks and the 5th ran about 10 yards. I am using factory ammo, Remington 140 gr. corelokts.

I really like the round. I think I actually shoot better with this caliber because of the low recoil. What I notice is that at the shot, I never lose the sight picture, makes a follow-up shot a lot easier, although so far follow-up shots have not been necessary.

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e4c4ever wrote:
BBQ Boy wrote:
I have a couple of buds who are trying to talk me out of buying a 7mm-08 saying that it doesn't have the kill that the 270 or 30.06. They have had the 7mm-08 and sold it because they say when they shot the deer it would never go down and that they had to search for hours to find it. After getting their 270 and 30.06 they have had just about all their deer drop dead in their tracks.

Your opinions? Should I tell them that they are poor shots and that I am getting the 7mm-08 over the 270 and 30.06 because it is just as an effective round?

I would get the .270 or 30-06 regardless. I read that the 7mm-08 does not have as much choice in bullets as the other two mentioned.

If you use any cartridge, in it you'll only use one bullet at a time. There are now bullet's suitable for deer from 224 cal on up that when properly chosen and properly used work wonderfully well. I too am someone that at one time bought in on the bullet selection theory but I've found that there's good deer bullet's all over, reguardless of caliber.

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I know I'm echoing the same opinions here, but you can wound and lose a deer with any caliber. I've seen whitetail and mule deer lost after being shot by the 30.06, 308, and 7mm Mag. - all bad shot placement. More precisely, the two mule deer (both trophy class animals) were neck shots - always, always a bad idea on big mule deer. The last whitetail was a mystery as to where he was hit, but again if he didn't go down then there's no reason to blame the 7mm - just the shooter.

Don, what kind of 224 bullets are out that are suitable for deer? I've had A LOT of bad experiences finding 224 bullets (exclusively) in wounded antelope. However, a lot of those poor creatures - mostly gut shot - were also likely the victims of bad running shots and a gross misunderstanding of 224 ballistics and capabilities - so I guess I shouldn't batter the 224 too much when I just battered the 308 and 7mm for the same thing: POOR SHOOTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And in agreement again with Don, you can find good suitable deer ammunition for the 7mm / 08 anywhere (and most popular cartridges in fact). If you haven't noticed just about every rifle manufacturer makes a 7mm 08 these days, so I'd buy it if you wanted it.

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Highflyer,

Nosler makes a 60 gr partition bullet. I have also heard of several other 60+ gr bullet's suitable. I think one was a Barnes TSX! I would not recommend a 224 cal rifle for deer hunting but the bullet manufacturer's are making the bullet's, mostly because people are using them.

A number of guy's are actively promoting the use of 223 cal. I'm sure I don't know why nore do I do it. The gist of my post is that the most important thing is good bullet selection and proper use of what you have overcomer a lot of power miss-placed and/or poor bullet selection.