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7.62x54 - Type 53

I have an accurate (for hunting) Type 53 Mosin.

I would like to make this a 100 yard gun for my 12 year old next year. Anybody make the 7.62x54 into a low recoil load? I have everything I need except for the recipe.

 

P.S. for all the mosin haters...  I don't want to hear the "buy a mauser" or any other negative comments. To each his own, so leave me alone. I enjoy hunting with my 91/30 and I love the cartridge. I would just like to make my boys gun a little more managable.  The 53 packs a whallop with a full load! 

 

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I'll look for one

I'll check my load books for one when I get home.  There is nothing at all wrong with the Mosins for a rugged dependable rifle.  The short carbine makes sense for a youth, but you are absolutely right that the full power load is way too much for a twelve year old. 

The first thing I would do is to remove the folding bayonet if it is still on.  You don't need the extra weight on the front end.

What weight bullet do you have to load?  I would think that you could work up an excellent load using the light .310 diameter 123 grain Hornady bullet.  It's designed for 7.62x39 but its the right diameter and there is no reason that it wouldn't work in the larger cartridge.  I have loaded some very accurate, light recoiling loads with that bullet for rifles chambered for the 303 British cartridge.  They too share the .310 bore size.

If you can't find a recipe one quick and dirty option to consider would be to pull a factory loaded projectile and dump about 10% of the powder before reseating the bullet.  There are a lot of variables that  affect accuracy, but it would be a starting point.

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You are going to have to

You are going to have to either reload them yourself of find someone to do it for you.  You can also do as Mike suggested of pulling the bullets and dumping about 10% of the powder out of it.  If you reload or have someone do it for you there is load data in the Hornady loadbook. 

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loads from the Lyman manual 47th edition

loads for jacketed bullets from the Lyman manual 47th edition are as follows all with IMR 4350 (not H4350):

for a 110 grain bullet IMR 4350 45-50 grains.

130 grain bullet IMR 4350 50-55 grains

150 garin bullet IMR 4350 50-55 grains 

180 grain bullet IMR4350 50-55 grains

200 grain bullet 48 - 53 grains of IMR4350 powder 

Use your own judgement and consult manuals, etc. but my favorite plinking load for 7.62x51 is 43.5 grains of IMR4350 behind a 150 grain bullet.

I'd start at about 45 grains of this powder and work my way up in half grain increments looking for best accuracy and light recoil.  The lighter bullets will of course give less recoil with an identical powder load.  Feel free to send more questions.

They list half a dozen powders but I thought I'd keep it simple and only list loads for one.

Good luck.  Let us know how you make out.

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Thanks everyone. The Type 53

Thanks everyone.

The Type 53 (Chinese) does not come... well, mine didn't anyway... with a bayonet so that is fine. I have found that .312 bullets are nessesary for good accuracy in this carbine. Hornady  and Woodleigh both make a 174 or 180 grain round nose which should work fine.  I would like this round to perform like a 30-30. 

I will give these ideas a go...

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