Here is picture of a bolt action a fella on Practical
Machinist built for an 8ga. 4 rear bolt lugs.Singleshot.
He used section of 20mm barrel for barrel.. Real nice.
Idea would do for 10 and 12ga also I think.
Has an aimpoint sight. Ed
Some have asked if the guy who made above
bolt action 8ga does them for others, no he only
did one for himself, and isn't a manufacturer.
Here is picture of a cast .504" slug BPI 12ga sabot
a guy made a few for me and it has good accuracy with
our slower powder loads, with the sabot working ok.
Slug is 440 gr and hard alloy cast with decent
meplat for good penetration.But it isn't too blunt
so it has good longer range capabilities when you
get the speed behind it. Soon be the deer season and
guys are still hunting for their ideal 12ga sabot/slug
setup for loading their own.BPI is supposed to have
a new sabot this year..Ed
The .504" lead slug I show for using in 12ga sabots is
one cast for using in .500" cases like my 499HE, by
sizing it after casting. Tried it at the .504" diameter and
it works in the sabot also. So it does double duty,
unsized 12ga sabot, sized and lubed in .500" use.
Some like short cases in big calibers, and have put up
various ideas. First picture is 12ga brass cases, two
2" long and other 2.25". Cases made by shortening
our cases we made by putting rims on bmg brass.
These can be used in Savage 210 and feed from mag
box. Can use 2.5" Magtech brass shortened so case
and protruding slug will be 2.7" overall and feed from
magazines of Savage & Mossy bolt guns. With 2.25" case
you can get 600gr to 1800 at least.Ed
Have had a bunch of different guys shooting the 4bore with light 11,000 ft lb loads. All say it is a tremendous thrill. Simply the greatest shooting ever.
So many have opinions on what is a real big bore. I think really big starts at .585........ So in that vein I have made the 585 Hubel Super Magnum, 585 HSE, giving a nod to necked cases.Also can make the 620 HSE for 600 guys. This is my only wildcat base case with a neck. Base and rim are .750", shoulder is .720". and case is 3.7" long. Power in the range of 14,000 to 17,000 ft lbs. Can be used single shot in the PH, the Savage 210, the Enfield. Not for mass production by me, cases too hard to make. An experiment with necked cases. Picture of the case later.Ed
20 gauge-- Fired factory 3.5" plastic cased Hastings 395 gr locked on sabot slug in 20ga with 30 inch barrel and got 1900 plus fps. Same sabot slug in RMC 3.5" brass case with shotgun primer, got 2500 fps. Case bases didn't expand. Load of 150gr RE17 slow enough getting to peak pressures is easy on cases. Dies work with both case types.Ed
20ga testing- 600gr slug in RMC 3.5" brass case with shotgun primer, 2300 fps. Very slight case expansion above base. Another load style- 12 number 1 buckshot, about 510 gr worth, 2000. Glued a 20ga card in the brass case over the shot. Few more guys coming, having fun shooting the 4bore this summer. Ed
There are fellas who have and are planning on doing hopped up loads and cases in the Greener GP, Martini type action. Here is picture of one done couple years ago by Aussie guy on NitroExpress forums. They need heavy barrel in place of original. It has a rifled Pacnor barrel and weighs about 9 lbs. In my measuring an action here, they will feed a 3" brass case with a protruding slug, like the cast Dixie or the Henson jkt slugs. I like the looks of these old classic guns. And they are strong enough with 3" RMC brass to get 730gr slug to 2000 fps...Ed
There are fellas who have and are planning on doing hopped up loads and cases in the Greener GP, Martini type action. There was one done couple years ago by Aussie guy on NitroExpress forums.
And by some dealers. Fancy ones They need heavy barrel in place of original. They have a rifled barrel and weigh about 9 lbs. In my measuring an action here, they will feed a 3" brass case with a protruding slug, like the cast Dixie or the Henson jkt slugs. I like the looks of these old classic guns. And they are strong enough with 3" RMC brass to get 730gr slug to 2000 fps...Ed
Don't assume that when fall comes, or hunting season, that the big bucks, and big bulls leave. Whitetail deer bucks especially, simply hide. And they hide very well. Mule deer bucks may leave a little. Bull elk may leave, but don't assume they do. Don't assume any of them do. I mean - where would they leave to? (Just another place where, for the most part, they would be hunted.) These big animals have the ability to hide in very small, very obscure places. So, embrace the fact (...