50 replies [Last post]
cowgal's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: Colorado
Joined: 03/10/2002
Posts: 1787
trucks

Ok, I'll chime in with my truck experiences over the years. We had an old beater '78 3/4 ton Ford that ran & ran, and we actually just sold it a few years ago. However in 1990 I bought a brand new 1/2 ton Ford and it turned out to be a lemon and I had to get rid of it just as I got it paid off. BTW all our trucks are 4x4's due to where we live, have never owned a 2-wheel drive. 

For every day knocking around in the mountains we drive Toyota 4-runners. Our very first one a 1983 (I believe the first year they came out) is still running and one of our sons rebuilt the engine and it's still going. It also survived both of our sons' high school years!

My husband drives a 1996 4-runner for car pooling to work and it's never had any problems. 

Then we also had a Toyota Tundra, and it was my favorite truck out of all. It had a great ride and did great in the mountains. Sadly it didn't do so well pulling our camper up the steep mountain passes. It did ok on the flats - but mountain passes really made it struggle. So traded it in for a Dodge diesel. My husband loves that truck - I hate it. It has an awful stiff ride, flimsy trim, and lots of small things have fallen apart on it, even though we don't use it much. I'm convinced that the Cummins engine will outlive the rest of the truck! But... it can literally fly up the steepest mountains with our Airstream camper! 

My advice, drive all the models you like, then choose what suits your needs. No one truck will do everything well. 

WesternHunter's picture
Offline
Joined: 05/05/2006
Posts: 2368
diesel

If you want power to haul, a diesel will out perform any gasoline engine, especially these newer diesels.

I agree though, these newer trucks from Detroit's Big 3 manufacturers should be made with tougher more durable interior components.  That's an edge that Toyota seems to have.

Topgun 30-06's picture
Offline
Grand Slam Challenge Winner!
Location: Allegan, MI
Joined: 12/11/2010
Posts: 695
Hey, I just got back on this

Hey, I just got back on this thread and happened to go back and click on that link with the cheap 4x4.  Funny, but everything in their 2 page listing didn't even have a car that was under $24, 500 and all the truck were well into the 30s and low 40s just like several of us mentioned, so I don't know where thet $20,000 great deal went, LOL!

As far as the flexfuel engine using E85, I have found that on trips out through Iowa and SD where it is easy to find that the price is usually 20% to 35% less than the regular grades of gasoline.  However, there is a comparable loss in MPG because it is around 110 AKI compared to regular and takes a lot more to burn and you lose that much in MPG.  If I can get a good deal on the price out there, I will buy it and drop my speed down about 7-10 MPH and gain that back, so I do save some money and there is no decrease in performance using it and it's better for the environment.  Back here in Michigan there isn't much of it around and the price differential isn't worth using it.

WesternHunter's picture
Offline
Joined: 05/05/2006
Posts: 2368
E85

I'm only going to consider using E85 if gasoline prices top out at close to $5 a gallon again, and only if E85 is at least half the price of regular gas.  The cost of E85 shouldn't go up that much, it's only 15% gasoline content.  Other than that it makes no sense from an economic stand point to use it.  If it's 30% cheaper per gallon in price than gas, but it reduces my fuel economy by 25% to 30%, then where is the savings?  Who knows if E85 is even better for the environment?  It's only better because you're keeping your money invested in a domestically produced product.  For the long haul it's actually harder on your engine.  Even the manufacturers tell you not to use it exclusively for an extended period of time.

buckykm1's picture
Offline
Location: Vicksburg, Mi
Joined: 11/24/2010
Posts: 347
Trucks

With gas prices the way they are, i would concider a mid size truck, i have a 2005 Chevy Colorado 4 x 4 with the 3.5 liter 5 cyclinder, i have a 125,000 miles on it and it runs like a top, every year i go out west for 2 weeks Elk hunting and i pull a 6' x 14' tandem axel cargo trailer, it is over 4000 lbs loaded. the Colorado is a awesome truck. i average 20 mpg with mine, and the new ones are even better then that.

Kevin

WesternHunter's picture
Offline
Joined: 05/05/2006
Posts: 2368
Chevy Colroado

buckykm1 wrote:

With gas prices the way they are, i would concider a mid size truck, i have a 2005 Chevy Colorado 4 x 4 with the 3.5 liter 5 cyclinder, i have a 125,000 miles on it and it runs like a top, every year i go out west for 2 weeks Elk hunting and i pull a 6' x 14' tandem axel cargo trailer, it is over 4000 lbs loaded. the Colorado is a awesome truck. i average 20 mpg with mine, and the new ones are even better then that.

Kevin

Those look like a very nice truck.  Smaller than what I like though.  The Colorado would likely be my second choice behind a Tacoma if I were to ever buy a mid sized pick-up truck.  In fact if I only bird hunted and fished I'd just find myself a mid to late 90's Jeep Cherokee Sport with a 4L I6 engine that was in good condition and drive that.  For upland hunts and fishing a Cherokee Sport would likely be all the vehicle I'd ever need.  Since I hunt elk and deer most years I find I like having a full sized tuck. Maybe it's just something I've become too accustomed to.  I just like having the extra capacity.  But I do like the newer Chevy Colorado.

Topgun 30-06's picture
Offline
Grand Slam Challenge Winner!
Location: Allegan, MI
Joined: 12/11/2010
Posts: 695
Kevin---You're not saying you

Kevin---You're not saying you are getting 20 MPG pulling that trailer out there and back are you?  My buddy in Battle Creek has a Colorado 2WD like yours and loves it!

buckykm1's picture
Offline
Location: Vicksburg, Mi
Joined: 11/24/2010
Posts: 347
MPG

NO, i wish i did, that is without the trailer, when i go out west, i run at 78 -79 MPH, and i average about 12 mpg pulling the trailer. and i don't think that is bad, concidering the size of trailer and the weight i am hauling.

Kevin

WesternHunter's picture
Offline
Joined: 05/05/2006
Posts: 2368
gas prices

Might just be able to get you a new truck at a low price afterall.  Have you seen the gas prices lately?  They're getting up there.  Won't be til May and we'll probably be seeing over $4 a gallon.  Nobody buys trucks or any high fuel consumption vehicle when that happens.  Looks like you'll have some negotiating power to use afterall when you buy.  I recall back in the late summer of '08 the dealerships were practically selling these trucks at cost, plus throwing in a sedan for free just to get people to buy.  Consider a truck with flex-fuel, you never know when having the compatability will be well worth it.  I filled mine up from empty with E85 on Sunday just to see how she performs with it and have put 130 miles on since filling with E85.  My onboard fuel economy caluclator has now stablized out at 17.8 MPG with ethanol on my daily commute.  Roughly 5% less economy than what I was averaging with gasoline around town on the highways, plus I notice a slight more boost in power.  This weekend it was $2.90 per gallon for E85 compared to $3.49 for midgrade gasoline, you do the math.  Good luck, hope you get the truck you want groovy mike.

groovy mike's picture
Offline
Grand Slam Challenge Winner!
Joined: 03/19/2009
Posts: 2496
That’s exactly what I’m hoping for WesternHunter!

That’s exactly what I’m hoping for WesternHunter!  Although I have to admit that the appeal of a truck that gets low mileage goes down as the price of gas goes up.  I have begun to consider a trailer behind my SUV for transporting the four wheeler and as an option for hauling moose quarters!  I’m also thinking that even though my old car needs a lot of work, if I drop $5,000 on repairs that is likely to get me a vehicle just as reliable as anything with fewer miles that I buy for $10,000 or $15,000.  I just might pursue that option instead.  It’s something to think about anyway.

Related Forum Threads You Might Like

ThreadThread StarterRepliesLast Updated
FAVOURITE WAY TO HUNT DEER?wonksy1509/08/2007 14:28 pm
25-06 and Elk?gameboy1002706/14/2012 11:33 am
Caliber opinions....WiskeyJaR1503/24/2008 18:06 pm
The Great Length of Pull DebateHighflyer403/02/2011 11:32 am
Looking for an ATVNight Raider207/25/2007 15:06 pm