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4x4 truck opinions?

I have decided that my next car will be a truck. 

You can not put a dead moose in a sedan, I don't care how you cut it.  You can't scout logging roads well in a car either (even though I have done it).  So - a 4 wheel drive (at least optional) truck is a must and it is time to start looking.

I've been driving Subaru's for the past decade so I don't know much about full sized trucks on the market today.  Are there any that you would recommend or recommend staying away from based on your personal experience?

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FYI to all - be warned - the new contest doesn't seem to reset the 24 hour post count (I lost 200 points for this post even though it is day 1 of this contest) - Confused also FYI the error message says only 5 posts in 24 hours but it seem sto deduct points if you have more than 2 posts in 24 hours.  It's all good though.  The only bad part is that I think ::-k  this post restarts the 24 hour clock even though I don't get any points for it

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We did have an incorrect

We did have an incorrect message in regards to the number of posts, that has now been corrected. However your points are correct, it hadn't been 24 hours since you had last posted. Posts are per 24 hours (rolling) and it only counts the posts that generate points.

We will have our programmer look at the points/hours, etc., and make sure it's indeed tallying correctly.

Also, it's better to send us a PM or post a topic in the help section of the forum, since we don't always get a chance to read all the threads.

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Thank you.

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We did have an incorrect message in regards to the number of posts, that has now been corrected. However your points are correct, it hadn't been 24 hours since you had last posted. Posts are per 24 hours (rolling) and it only counts the posts that generate points.

We will have our programmer look at the points/hours, etc., and make sure it's indeed tallying correctly.

Also, it's better to send us a PM or post a topic in the help section of the forum, since we don't always get a chance to read all the threads.

I'm not complaining - I was just offering advice to other posters.  The 24 hour limit gets me all the time but it is clearly explained and functioning corrcetly.  I just have to watch the clock and follow the rules.  Thanks for looking into it

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You're not limited to 2 posts, that is what you will get points for in a 24 hour timeframe, however all members are free to post as much as they wish. We don't want member to think we're trying to limit their participation on the forum - that is not the goal. By limiting points and scaling points for comments, it gives folks who have less time than others a chance to compete.

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The way that gas prices are

The way that gas prices are going you should be able to find a nice truck fairly cheap.  So just what kind are you looking for?  Will you do any hauling or is this is just your hunting rig? 

I have owned Dodge, Chevey, and Fords and for a off road type of truck I think that I would stay away from the Chevey's anymore.  They have gone to a lower body style that I just don't like.  Where the Fords and Dodges are still sitting up in the air a little.  Also for a hunting rig you might want to look at the short wheel base trucks they just get around better in the hills.  Now if you have a few buddies that will be riding with you or your want to keep your gear out of the weather then an extended cab is for you.  So if you go with an extended cab with a short box it will end up being about the same length as a standard truck and you won't get the maneuverability of just a shot box truck.  So if it was me and I was just looking for a hunting rig only I would look for a short wheel base Ford or Dodge and put a sleeper shell on the back.  That should give you the room for your moose along with being able to get around on logging roads without too many problems. 

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Trucks

I currently own a 2010 Ford F150 SuperCrew and love it.  It's the last model year made with the 5.4L Triton V8 engine.  I love it so far.  For 2011 model year Ford went with 4 brand new engines in the F150's, supposed to be more fuel efficient.  I previously owned a Dodge 1500 Ram and liked it a lot at the time, but it had the older V8 magnum engine that just didn't have the same power as the Ford Triton or Chevy/GMC Vortec engines.  The newer model year Ram 1500's use the 5.7L Hemi and from what I read now the Hemi offers much better horse power and torque than anyting from Ford or Chevy.  I'm sure there is alway a trade-off though. 

I sure like looks and payload offerings of the newer Chevy/GMC Silverado/Sierra trucks.  True as Critter commented, in stock from they don't seem to have quite the ground clearance of the Ford or Dodge trucks, but that's easy and inexpensive to remedy. I have seen here in our parking lot at work a newer GMC Sierra 1500 crew cab that was equiped with a larger diameter 185/70R17 sized tires and it did seem to raise the ground clearance to acceptable level without needing a lift kit.  You get about an 1.5 inches higher clearence with those 185/70R17 as opposed to something like a smaller diameter 185/65R17 sized tire.  The trick is to go with a larger "width to height ratio" tire as opposed to a larger wheel.  Large wheels do nothing for your height, they just give you a thinner tire aspect ratio and profile. 

2010 and 2011 models of all three truck seem to have a lot to offer in both power, payload, and fuel economy.  I recommend test driving all three truck brands to see which one you like best.  I'd also recommend a 4 door supercrew type cab or extended cab rather than the standard cab. The reason being that you'll want enough room inside the cab to protect some types of your gear from the elements and incliment weather.  I personally don't like caps or toppers over the bed of my trucks, but that's just a personal prefence.  They are an option, so decide if the extra expense and useage is right for your needs.  As a baseline for hunting I recommend a truck with 4x4 capability, 5.5 ft or 6 ft bed length, and a larger 36 gal fuel tank.  Longer bed lengths offer more room, but the downside in rough terrain or tight mountain roads is less agility.  The shorter and standard length beds have plenty of room for bull elk or moose while offering more agility and maneuverability over rugged tight terrain.  I also recommend aftermarket at some point getting a set of wider and agressive all-terrain tires put on.  Sedans have no place in the biggame hunting world.  It really is hard to bring back elk or moose with anything other than a full sized pick-up truck.  I think every biggame hunter is wise to own one.  Then again I happen to be a truck type of guy anyway. Thumbs up

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Thanks - keep it coming!

Thanks guys, these are exactly the sort of recommendations that I was hoping for.

The advice looks good too.  Price plays in.  I’m seeing the new Dodge quad cab advertised for about $22,000.  That doesn’t seem too bad although if I could find a used one with mileage less than 40,000 miles for $15,000 or so, I’d take a hard look at it.  I’d love to help someone out who is struggling financially by relieving them of their truck payment after they have paid a year or two on a big truck and decided they need something that gets 40 miles to the gallon.  I definitely want a quad cab.  We had a little Chevy S-10 with a jump seat years ago and it just wasn’t enough.  We have three in our family and so need capacity for at least 3 full sized passengers – and likely more.  A bench seat in back would be ideal.  The improved gas mileage is a nice bonus feature.  I’m really not worried about gas mileage.  I mean 100,000 miles at just twenty miles to the gallon instead of thirty means that you are burning 1,667 more gallons over the full 100,000 miles.  Call it $4 per gallon that’s $6,668 more per gas over ten years or so.  That’s no big deal as long as I don’t be silly and get something that only gets 15 miles to the gallon.  At least a six foot bed is a must.  My Subaru Baja has a four foot bed and it is just about useless for hauling any serious cargo.  With at least a six foot bed I could move eight foot 2x4s or sheets of plywood with the tail gate down.    I had not considered adding the sleeper cap to the bed.  If it is something that I could take off fairly easily that is something to think about too.  Thanks guys, I appreciate the input so far.

Mike

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I agree with what you said

I agree with what you said about finding one that is a year or two old. I hate the thought of 25 or 30 K when you can get the same thing at about half, that is just as nice. I have a 1998 K3500 crew cab that will do anything excrept get good gas mileage, it ranges 10 to 14 mpg  and I think that is good for what it is  and it will pull the 5th wheel or 4 horse trailor with no problem. My wife drives a 2002 S10 crew cab that gets 18 - 20 mpg and then my work truck is a 2010 K 2500 crew cab that sets higher than anything stock that I have ever had. All are 4X4 and thats all I will ever buy unless I get another suberban and that would be for the family and the fuel mileage. I have had ford, dodge, international, nissan, and chevy is what I like the best, just cant beat the ride. I did make me sick when the gov took em over though.

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I've been driving a f150

I've been driving a f150 Supercrew 4 door for 9 years now and love it. The size is a little big but they have the best of everything. Mine is old but the new ones are pretty similar and the rebates are pretty good right now if you can find some of the 2010's that are still out there. I only get 11 mpg but the whole thing is highly modified, I think the new ones get over 20 on the highway.

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Ford and Chevy's are great

Ford and Chevy's are great also dodge, people have there favorites, If you wanna think outside the box a little the Nissian Titans a great trucks and very depenable. And are also made here in the USA. Once i get done paying off my wifes car thats what i am getting. great mpg and enough room for my whole family. Just throughing out another option. I curently have a nissian pathfinder and have had it for 8 years and havent had to do anything major on it beside routine matinence. its a 1994 and I'm the 3rd owner.

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