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.44 mag double action or single action revolver?

i was thinking of getting a .44 mag for a woods gun. Which action is prefered. single action or double action. My wife would probably be packing this gun this fall for bear protection in alaska. I know 12 gauge would be better, but the odds are very slim she will have a bear encounter.

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Actually bear spray is better

Actually bear spray is better than both the .44 or 12 ga. Now for action preference it is apples to apples. I have had them both and in a hunting situation I find myself cocking the hammer back on either one. Now in a panic mode which might be happening during a bear encounter a double action may be best. For 99.99% of a shooting situation with one I would bet that you would be cocking the hammer, not to mention that cocking the hammer should give you better accuracy as you pull the trigger.

On my grizzly hunt in British Colombia last year my guide packed a double action .44 magnum. I asked him what it was for and he told me that he planned on shoving it into the bears mouth and pulling the trigger 6 times. Now that would not be possible with a single action revolver.

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critter when i lived in ak,

critter

when i lived in ak, we always made the same statement. Put the barrel in the bears mouth and pull the trigger. WE are going on a guided hunt. the outfitter has been in ak along time. He told me that they have only had to put down 2 bears. so the odds of a bear encounter are slim. He prefers the 12 gauge. He does not think bear spray works. I don't get that one.

I have alwasy wanted a .44 just have never bought one. I turn 44 hear real soon, and was thinking i could kill 2 birds with one stone. The .44 for 44 and have a bear gun for her. But i doubt she would handle the recoil of the .44

I might end up with the pumpshotgun and bear spray on her hip. that way she can put the shotgun down and fish, but still have some protection if she ambles 20 yards away from the shotgun.

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When you are on the hunt and

When you are on the hunt and shooting you as well as I know that recoil doesn't really mean that much. I have been shooting a .44 mag for over 40 years now and I will say that 99% of my shots through it is with reduced loads, but in a hunting situation they are full power. I think that the big question would be would your wife be capable of shooting a .44 mag accurately enough to kill a large bear?

So when you buy that .44 mag get some .44 special loads for it if you can find them or reload the .44 shells down to 800-900fps loads for practice. Then get the full power ones for final sight in and hunting, but shoot enough of them that you don't develop a flinch as you pull the trigger.

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.44 mag double action or single action revolver?

I guess it comes down to personal preference. Mine is a double action Rugar I keep handy in bear country, and although I usually cock the trigger each time when using it, I do practice doing both. Gives you the option if going into "panic mode" if having a late night and unwelcome visitor entering your tent or whatever, LOL!

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In a true really panic moment

In a true really panic moment I think that I would want a Desert Eagle in .50 caliber with 8 rounds. If any animal could survive after that then they can eat me if they can find me through the pile of Censored   that I would of left. Sick

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In a true really panic moment...

Ha... I can think of a few others that wouldn't hurt to have too. Well, just hope I never have a panic moment like that, it would be one heck of a way to wake-up!!!! I have had a bear come into my campsite one evening years ago while sitting around the campfire (which was enough) , but never inside a tent etc. while sleeping.

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I've shot friends 44 mags.

I've shot friends 44 mags. With cast bullet's they are great. problem come's with serious sshooting bullet's, full power jacketed loads. You sure your wife can handle nit? if you think so, what I have discovered is DA's are much easier to shoot than SA's. Problem with the SA's is the grip, it's rounded at the top and every time you shoot the thing with a heavy kicking cartridge, the grip rolls back in your hand and you pretty much need to re-position your hand to shoot the next shot. With the DA, the grip is straighter and rather than rolling on your hand it reciols back into it, no reposition necessary.

Your outside people, meaning you don't live in Alaska so I believe you need a guide. I would leave the pistol home and use the guide as back up. Your gonna have a min of three people there, you two and the guide. All three will probably be armed with rifles sufficent to do what you want. The bear will only beat up one at a time. Let's say you actually took a 270 win brown bear hunting. What would you rather hit the bear with, a 44 Mag of the 270 with a 150 gr bullet? I'll take the 270!

In Alaska they say that the reason to carry a 44 mag is the shoot your partner in the foot as your running away! And of course, don't forget to file off the front sight. Lot less painless when the bear sticks it where the sun don't shine.

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Grip

Interesting you brought up the rolling back in your hand Don. My DA Rugar Redhawk would do that to me I discovered after buying it and I would actually get a blood-blister up high on my thumb sometimes if doing any repetitive shooting, limiting my practice. I figured it must have to do with my hand size or something. Anyway, I soon removed the wooden grips it came with and replaced them with a Pachmayr grip that solved that issue and much more comfortable to shoot; improved my accuracy as well. Others with Redhawks I've met said they were going to do the same thing after trying mine out.

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we will not neccarily alwasy

we will not neccarily alwasy be together. When i am looking for a dall ram, she will be fishing. So i do need to make sure she has her own protection. Also having been a guide and been on guided stuff. Don't ever put all your baskets into the guide. They don't always have expierence. they are just paid to be there, wether they are any good or not.

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I carry a SA Ruger 44 while

I carry a SA Ruger 44 while hunting. Call me old school but I like the originals. At work I carry a 1911 my favorite rifle is my 03 Springfield. Your correct in saying that a 12 gauge is better for bears but the 300 grain XTP hollow point makes a good hole also... To me the best thing to do is find a SA and a DA and shoot both see what feels better. Go with that.

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