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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

I'm probably going to buy my friends 300 win mag because it's at a price I can't pass up. However I AM a little concerned.

My fear is that the round will not expand rapidly enough on the thin skinned/ thin bodied Desert Mule Deer we have locally. An .06 or .270 will pass through, slow down and leave a large exit wound.

I have another good friend and hunting partner that has told me stories about the shooting of two different deer, a few years apart, with a 300 win mag at close range. On both of these deer, they were shot in the boiler room and the round passed clean through with almost no expansion. The energy from the bullet hardly passed into the animal - they didn't even fall over, just ran off. One of them traveled over two miles. They found it by accident the next day, magpies were having a good time and they went to investigate. Exit wound the size of you're thumb.

What experience do you have with a 300 win mag on thin skinned, small bodied game?

Jesse

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

It's not the calibre that expands in the animal it is the type of bullet. With the 300 win mag you can get just about any type of bullet to work on ground hogs and brown bears and everything in between. Try the nosler partitions. They work great in my 300 ultramag and that is going even faster. Core-loks from remington are also effective in that calibre.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

CORELOKTS 150gr (2700fps) are what I use in my 30-06... And they'll pass out the other side, but take a big bite with them. My worry is that the WinMag 180gr Corelokts are moving 1,000 feet faster... And I've heard they won't slow down enough to expand fully/impart enough shock energy.

So I guess what I should have asked is:

What bullet for the 300 WinMag will offer rapid expansion on thin skinned game without fragmenting?

Thanks!

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

150 grain bullets for 30 caliber guns exapnd fast enough that they will work for all medium-sized big game. They should drop a deer-sized animal in its tracks with a 150 grain bullet, since .30 caliber, 150 grain bullets are typicalle designed for violent expansion. Perfect for North American medium-sized big game, that is, game weighing for 100 to about 350 lbs. Covers a lot of ground.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

The core-lokts that I was talking about are the ultras. They are designed for the faster calibres. Swift Scirocco are also another good choice. I think the partitions I mentioned earlier would work great and be hard to beat. I shot a 6 point buck at about 60 yards with my 300 RUM with 180 gr. partitions. The deer was actually pushed backward and down and had an exit wound the size of your fist. This should be fairly representative of your size deer you are after and at 60 yards the velocity was certainly up there.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

Dang, Chester! Now that's what I'm talking about! But I've read mixed reviews about partitions (some people say they don't retain their mass)... have you ever experienced that?

Just wondering, Jesse.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

I can't truthfully answer that because I have never recovered any from an animal(which is a good thing). What I can tell you is that I found zero pieces in the animal so everything must have stayed together. Bullets that I recovered at the range at 100 yds were still intact and looking like they did their job.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

Well those sound like they'll work just fine.

Have you any experience with a close range neck shot?

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

I have done neck shots at close range but not with the 300RUM. I used partitions in my 308 win and made a 20 yd neck shot with exceptional results. I lost about a one pound roast out of the neck though.

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

A 300 magnum to the neck at that close! SHEESH! I'd think that would send the deer into a summersault!

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.300 WIN MAG too powerfull?

I have never done it with the 300RUM but even that 6 point buck at 60 yds in the boiler room did a somersault. The deer I shot in the neck with the 308WIN was a 14 point buck and it took two more shots to keep him still. Some deer are determined to leave the area no matter how dead they are.

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