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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

I have to admit to being rather new to this forum, but I would like some advice from people who know....Which is better for possible elk and other large game hunting, 300 win mag or 338 win mag?

What about recoil? I have shot 3 inch 12 gauge shells during spring turkey season for the better part of 20 years with no problems. I did once try a 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge magnum, and I thought it was brutal. I have used a remington 700 30-06 for deer and have no problem with recoil. I once shot a friend's 7mm mag and I did feel it had more noticeable recoil. My brother-in-law had a .340 weatherby. I shot the .340 weatherby, and I really thought it kicked.

How do the .300 and .338 compare in recoil to the guns I have mentioned?

What about semi-autos? A friend said that the Browning BAR's are very accurate and he thinks they have reduced recoil by virtue of their semi-auto action.

What about the BOSS system? Does it really work as far as reducing recoil? Does it really help with and improve ballistics?

Any opinions would be appreciated! Thanks.

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Location: NONYA,thats in MONTANA
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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

If you thought the 3 1/2" 12 guage was brutal your not gonna like the 300 much more and the 338 even less.The 300 is more rifle than you will ever need unless you plan a brown bear hunt in Alaska,its a great round very accurate,lots of downrange energy just rough on the recoil,the 338 is even worse on the recoil with more knockdown power(hevier bullet) but definetly overkill for most everything you will hunt in the lower 48.The 7mm Rem Mag will do the job just as well as the 300 with a more managable recoil and almost the same ballistics. Think

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

I have a preference to the 338wm over the 300wm. Then again, I have a preference to anything, over the 300wm.
The best way I've found to manage the recoil is in the stock design and a good recoil pad.
A good straight stock. Stay away from the monte carlo designs. You'll find them to be much more comfortable to handle.

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

dentodoc:

Welcome to Big Game Hunt Forum. We hope you enjoy many visits to come and feel free to ask questions until your heart's content. Big smile

As for semi-autos, they extend the cartridge's recoil over a longer period of time than snappier bolt actions and this results in an approximate 30% reduction in recoil.

Here's a few recoil figures from popular bolt action calibers:

30-30 Win 170-gr. = 11.1 ft. lbs
308 Win 180-gr. = 17.5 ft lbs
7mm Mag 150-gr. = 19.5 ft. lbs
30-06 180-gr. = 20.5 ft. lbs
300 WSM 180-gr. = 23.8 ft. lbs
300 Win Mag 180-gr. = 25.9 ft. lbs
340 Weatherby Mag 200-gr. = 29.6 ft. lbs
338 Win Mag 250-gr. = 33.1 ft. lbs

See also Chuck Hawk's Rifle Recoil Table: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

Steve

P.S. 30-06 and 12 gauge 2 3/4" loads kick about the same. A 30-30 170-gr. load has 11.1 ft. lbs of recoil so if you put 3 of these together and fired at the same time, you'd have similar recoil to the 338 Win Mag, which is double that of a 308 Win as well.

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

he said 3 1/2" mag,not 2 3/4" the 3 1/2s kick like a mule same as a 300. Thumbs up

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

I think the 2.75" slug was used as a comparison to the 30-06(a rifle he is familiar with). The 3 or 3.5" slug is obviously going to and does kick harder than that.

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

Dentodoc

I think the 30-06 is more than capable of taking anything you will ever hunt in the U.S. of A. And since you are comfortable with the round why by another punishing round such as the 300wm or 338 :.

Go with the 06. It hasnt been around for 100 yrs for nothing Thumbs up

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

Having purchased 3 big game caliber rifles in the last 3 years, I could have selected any caliber I wanted.

After careful thought, my aspirations and dreams of magnum firepower came back to earth and I purchased two 30-06's and a 30-30 for the wife and kids to learn on.

Many magnum hunters would have been just as satisfied with the 30-06 and (most likely) so will you.

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

Funny enough, Chuck Hawks says in one of his articles that the 300 Weatherby Mag kicks with over 35 ft-lbs of recoil.

Here it is: http://www.chuckhawks.com/300magnum.htm

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

Captian can you get the data to compare the 300 with a 3 1/2 12 guage mag?Just curious... Think

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300 win mag or 338 win mag? Semi-auto or bolt-action?

I have never done a shotgun recoil calc. so I looked on the net for some. Here is what I found:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm

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