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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

Ok guys, perhaps this has been talked to death over and over other places, but i just can seem to find the information i want, so:

Im looking to purchase a new hunting rifle, basically for deer and ive looked the 30-06's way.

My question is that buying about a lower to mid price range gun, what (generall) groups could i expect at about 100 and 200 yards?

i know there are many factors, such as bullet weight and what type the rifle likes, but to generalize it, lets say 150 or 165 grain, and say the rifle is between liking them and hating them......

is about a 2-3 inch group at 200 yards too much to expect? (im talking bottom of the line rem core-lokts, win power points and federal soft points. )

-bear

EDIT::::!!! Ok, to make it easier..

I buy the gun, say a rem 770 in 30-06, i take it to the range using 150 grain core-lokts, sight in at 100 yards. Is a range from 2-3 inch at 200 yards out of the question,

asking based on first opintion of a 30-06

thanks guys!

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

Welcome to BGH.

A decent rifle should do 2" to 3" group's at 200yds reguardless of cartridge. If your up to it that is. I always thought I could make a factory rifle shoot 1" @ 100 but a Rem mod 7 proved me wrong. I have a custom 30-06, 63 yrs old that will put cheap factory ammo into just over an inch. Tried it once to see what it would do. Also have a mod 70 featherweight in 6.5x55 that a guy gave me a box of factory ammo for, right around an inch at 100.

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

given the most common 1 in 10 twist rate for the '06, is it still good out to like 200 or more yards accurately? (because the twist rate is suited for heavier bullets)

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

It will do anything you want a hunting rifle to do. Pick a gun, caliber, scope (mounts and rings), bullet and head to the range.

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I tend to agree . Factory rifles these days are capable of far greater accuracy than most shooters can attain. The size of groups you get at 100 and 200 yards has a great deal to do with how well you can shoot your rifle. Seriously, in the hands of a very capable shooter it's possible for a factory rifle to shoot as tight as 1/2 inch or 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards. I've seen it done.

There are just too many things that hamper or tend to interfer with accuracy beyond the rifle itself such as wind, ground thermals, inconsistantly charged ammunition, bullet weight variations, type of bench rest. Then there's the shooter and all his/her imperfections and flaws. Not to mension the things that may occure with the rifle itself, like barrel temperature, and the pressure from the forearm against the barrel. All these things also affect precision match grade barrels too.

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

so do you think that i could attain enough accuracy from it for pest hunting (groundhog) to moderate ranges ie 200-300 yards?

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.
Bear1900 wrote:
so do you think that i could attain enough accuracy from it for pest hunting (groundhog) to moderate ranges ie 200-300 yards?

Can you yes, out of the box, maybe. Its a lil trigger work and proper bedding, for sure, with CHEAP factory ammo, its back to a maybe but thats why they make premium ammo and ppl reload.

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.
Romey wrote:
Bear1900 wrote:
so do you think that i could attain enough accuracy from it for pest hunting (groundhog) to moderate ranges ie 200-300 yards?

Can you yes, out of the box, maybe. Its a lil trigger work and proper bedding, for sure, with CHEAP factory ammo, its back to a maybe but thats why they make premium ammo and ppl reload.

are you talking any rifle caliber, or are you talking the 30-06?

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

It would pretty much be a maybe with any cartridge shooting cheap ammo for ground hogs at 300 yards. Entirely possible, but you'd have to find a cheap load it shot well first. Its possible it just might not be upto it, or you may not be, alot of people can't shoot well enough at 300 yards to hit a deer in the vitals and thats a target about the same size as an entire ground hog.

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

Jim said it all Thumbs up

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30-06 sprg., new hunting rifle question.

so no-one here would say that a .270 win is more accurate than a 30-06?
just merely on a basis or buying it, and then taking it to the range with cheap ammo,,?

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