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mcb
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270,280 or 30-06

Its pretty funny how much argument you can have over a family of cartridges that are all the exact same case, just neck down to different diameters. There is only 0.031 inches (1/32 of an inch) difference in diameter between a 270 Win (0.277) and a 30-06 (0.308). But boy does it cause a ruckuss.

I personally like the 270 Win but that would be because of the type of flexiblity it give me. I can load them real light and fast for Varmints and yet still have a gun that will take any animal in North America if I do my part resposibly. Most of my hunting will be groundhogs, and Coyotes and some deer hunting each year with an occasional elk hunt thrown in. The 270 can acomplish all of these task fairly well. It is a very well established cartridge you have a wide selection of firearms and ammunition to chose from. The only cartridge with a wider choice of guns and loads I can think of is the 30-06.

Just my $0.02
mcb

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Location: Sunny San Diego
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270,280 or 30-06

I've got a 30.06 right now... I've been considering trading for a .270 - I really like the balistics!!!

I will be hunting Mule deer and Wild Pig for the time being. As we don't have Elk and Black Bear local, I may go out of state in a few years... Maybe.

The area I hunt is either brushy canyons or open desert and can get windy on a bad day.

What do you guys think? Will there be a big trade off for Trajectory vs Conditions?

Jesse

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270,280 or 30-06

I think the 30-06 actually has more favorable ballistics than a 270, based on things like downrange energy, ability to handle heavier bullets, things like that. From what I've seen, the difference in trajectory between the two rounds is virtually insignificant. In terms of killing power, the 30-06 greatly outranges the 270, even with similar bullet weights, such as the 150 grain bullet which can be driven at or close to 3100 fps, and the 165 grain bullet at 3000 fps.

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270,280 or 30-06

This is my first post on this forum. I own a 30-06 and just won a Ruger MkII in .280 in a raffle at the end of November.

I really can't tell much difference in either round. I would purchase the caliber that offers the most flexibility and bullet choices. I have looked at several reloading manuals. There is only a few inches difference in trafjectory between the . 270, .280, and 30-06 with the same weight bullets.

If you ever plan on hunting elk, bear, and moose, then I might choose the 06, which offers heavier bullets. But this is only my personal preference.

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270,280 or 30-06

If you calculate maximum point blank range using ballistic software you find out that the difference between the .270 and the .30-06 is something like 10-15 yards. Hardly significant, in my opinion, out at nearly 300 yards. Yet the .270 has a reputation of shooting so much "flatter" than the .30-06. I've never been able to understand that.

Maybe it becomes significant if you are determining bullet drop and taking shots out at 500 or 600 yards. I don't know, because I won't take shots like that. What's more, I suspect that about 90% of the people who DO take shots like that shouldn't!

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270,280 or 30-06

I don't understand it either. From what I've seen, its within 4 or 5 inches all the way out. The fastest loads from a 30-06 have roughly 20 inches of drop at 400 yards, the 130 grain 270 bullet has about 18 inches. I don't see how it shoots much flatter. My opinion, its really a question of power vs. recoil, the trade-off game.

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270,280 or 30-06

The .280 is a great round, and I have one. It is more versatile than the .30-06 in my view, but you must reload to get that potential out of it. Factory selection is slim. I am currently working on a long range load...120 grain Barnes X at 3200 fps. Now THAT will shoot flat! If you don't reload, the .30-06 would offer you the greatest range of uses. The .270 is a great gun, but not as versatile.

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Location: Arizona
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270,280 or 30-06

The choice is up to the person I like my 30-06 if I want flat I go with my 300 win mag the most important thing to keep in mind is knowing your gun. Everything I have ever shot with my 30-06 has not taken more than one shot I an a firm believer in big bullets I like 165 grain rounds I have been hunting as long as I can keep in mind and I have reloaded more rounds than most ever will( I worked In a reloading shop ) the 30 calibers seem like they work. Most of my friends shoot 30 calibers. In fact my girlfriend who weighs 113 pounds shoots a 300 win mag. I like the 280 too another point to keep in mind is that there is no match ammo in 270 bench rest shooters don’t think it is accurate enough there are plenty of match loads in 280 and 30 cal this is just some food for thought. I do believe in the words a man has to know his limitations keep it save and have fun Scott

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270,280 or 30-06

Get one of each!

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270,280 or 30-06

Well since a .280 is what I got in the lay away for xmas.......:smile: