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.270 win handloads for Elk/Mulies in the mountains

Can Anybody make a load suggestion for a good hunting load in .270. I was considering the RL19 powder pushing a 140 grain accubonds at 3000 fps. After giving this some thought I am thinking that I might want to go with a heavier bullet. Maybe the 150 grain partition. Bears may be on the menu as well.
Any thoughts?
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I would think either would be a decent choice. I've used the 140gr in 6.5 on elk and it was fine. I've also used the 154 in 280 and 7x57 and it preformed very well. All these cartridges are so close that what one will do, pretty much so will the other. I do like the idea of the bonded bullet at 3000 fps. I don't hunt with anything that is pushing bullets that fast as I like a bit lower velocity. Best way to do that for me is to go up in bullet weight.

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A 150 grain bullet load in .270 win will usually always duplicate the 150 grain bullet load in .30-06 Spgfld, only you get better sectional density with the .270. Velocity and energy transfer are the same.

I've made the 130 grain Speer Grand Slam the standard for nearly all my hunts, from antelope to elk. My hand loads are loaded to deliver approx 3080 ft/sec at the muzzle. I had used 150 grains for Elk, but found that the 130 grains does the job every bit as good.

For Black Bear a .270 with 130 grain strandard soft point bullet works just fine. Though if it gives ya peace of mind just use 150 grains. For Brown Bear I've heard from outfitters that a .270 can take em, but they don't suggest it. From what I hear from the experts they recommend anything 180 grain or heavier in the various .30 cal magnums or larger.

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I would think the 130gr Grand Slam bullet would do a good job in the 270. But the 150gr 270 Win won't quite run along with the 30-06 150gr bullet. It can't. The capacities of the cases are the same and the 30 cal bullet has more bearing surface on the base of the bullet to push on. As the same case goes up in dia, velocity with equal bullets goes up some degree also. The 150gr 270 does run along with the 165gr 30-06 tho. Where the real difference comes in with the 150gr bullet in both is that the 150gr 270 bullet is longer and has better balistic qualties than the 150gr 30 cal bullet. For the 30 cal bullet of like design to equal the BC and SD of the 27 cal bullet, the 30 cal would have to weight something over 180grs. Then velocity advantage goes to the 270.

Max listed vel for the 150gr 270 in Hornady is 2900fps. For the 30-06 with the 180gr, 2700fps. You may or may not match those velocities.

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Don,
Ya may want to re-check the ballistic tables for the 150 gr .270 and the 150 gr .30-06. Reload manuals and tables from various ammo makers show nearly same velocity for both. With certain hand loads there can be differences of up to 150 ft/sec between them. I agree that the .30-06 has more potential for a bit more powder and a bit higher velocity due to the shorter bullet of the 150 gr .30-06, but they are usually the same velocity when loaded.

You'll get the same energy transfere when you throw the same grain, shape, and velocity of bullet regardless of bullet diameter. The difference in these situations is sectional density.

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Rogie, I use 57.8 grains of H 4831 and 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips since Nosler ballistic tips arrived on the scene a long time ago. I never used a 130 gr or 140 gr other than at the range(got the bullets for nothing).
Other than maybe reducing pelt damage on some critters(possibly) I can't see any advantage to using a 130 or 140 gr bullet in a 270 Win.???
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Thanks for the input everybody,
Hammer, I looked at the Ballistic tip 150's but I had some concerns about the bullet construction for Elk. That powder charge seems pretty hot. How's the recoil in that load? I'm loading these rounds for a Baretta Mato Rifle that I will loan to a friend to hunt with this fall. The guy is not a regular hunter. Shot placement could be an issue.
After some additional thought I decided to load the 150 grain Nosler Partitions with 56.5 grains of RL22. The book lists this load at a little over 2900 fps using standard large rifle primers.
I was gonna spark my loads with a CCI large rifle magnum primer.
Any thoughts on that boys????
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Rogie,
You can't go wrong with that 150 gr Nosler load for elk. It's a very sound choice.

I personally only stick with 130 grain high velocity rounds because I don't want to be re-zeroing my scope every time I switch loads and I chose a tougher constructed 130 grain bullet that is a great choice for all the biggame I hunt. I've found that my 130 grain reloads take game just as well as the 150 grain bullets I had used in the past. But again, it's more a reason of me not wanting to chase my zero around on my scope, and 130's at 3100 ft'sec give a flatter trajectory and a bit better range. However I have no problem at all with 150's in a .270, and I do keep a couple boxes of Grand Slams in that weight on hand.

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Try 150 Nosler Parts w/ 56.0 IMR 4831 and a Fed 215. It has proven very effective for me on elk.

I took eight head of plains game in Tanzania with a 160 gr Nosler Part backed by 54.0 grain of IMR 4831 and a Fed 215.

The 150 gr chronoed 2995 fps from my M70. I did not chrono the 160 load...just observed pressure signs. I suspect it's somewhere between 2825 - 2875 fps.

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Try 150 Nosler Parts w/ 56.0 IMR 4831 and a Fed 215. It has proven very effective for me on elk.

I took eight head of plains game in Tanzania with a 160 gr Nosler Part backed by 54.0 grain of IMR 4831 and a Fed 215.

The 150 gr chronoed 2995 fps from my M70. I did not chrono the 160 load...just observed pressure signs. I suspect it's somewhere between 2825 - 2875 fps.

How long of barrel do you have on that Model 70? 56 grains of IMR 4831 doesn't seem like it will throw a 150 grain bullet that fast without exceeding the pressure limits, and I had loaded 150's with IMR 4831 a great many times in the past. I suppose it's possible, but not typical to safely get those velocities.

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rogie asked:
That powder charge seems pretty hot. How's the recoil in that load?(end quote)
Recoil doesn't bother me, kinda like a bit of it What one person describes as "intolerable" may be a non-issue to others.
The load is HOT and should be approached with caution, but have no problems in my Rem 700

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