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270. for Moose?

Ok, wait just a second. NONYA, in the 338 thread, you go on and on about how a 300 Mag doesn't have much more knockdown power than a 30-06 and how the 30-06 is a better gun because you don't get punished with it, yet here you're going on about needing a magnum round and all that power.

I have a 30-06 in Rem 700 BDL that drives a 165 grain bullet at 3000 fps MV and a 180 at 2800 fps MV and has really tight groups, now last I checked the 165 has like 24 inches drop at 400 yards and thats factory loaded and way slower. Hell, that factory loaded 180 only has about 26-27 inches drop. If you call this a handicap, then I would say you've got problems.

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270. for Moose?

please show me where I said a 300 dosent have any more knockdown than a -06 I dont think anyone would say that.And if you cant please refrain from making up **** as you go.

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270. for Moose?

''There are plenty of big bears killed in Alaska with a .30-06,I know guides who pack a 06 for bear and moose ,a 180gr bullet out of an 06 at close ranges will kill any animal in North America and quickly.I like the extended range of my 7mm but I would not hesitate to take my 06 to Alaska.I cant understand why anyone would want the punishment you get from a 300wm for the small amount of "knockdown power" you gain from the Monster Mags.''

After my initial response to this, where I explained the greater velocity and energy of the ''Monster Mags'' you stated that fps does not necessarily mean more knockdown power. I never even tried to say that you said don't get ANY MORE knockdown power, Those were your words not mine. I even posted a link to a ballistics chart from Remington to support what I said. It says right there on it, a 30-06 has a ME of 2914 ft-lbs, whereas the 300 Remington Ultra Mag, a so-called Monster Mag, has over 4000, and delivers as much energy at 200 yards as a 30-06 does at the muzzle, now correct me if I'm wrong but that's more than a ''small amount of knockdown power'' gained.

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270. for Moose?

I never stated that a 300 dosent have more knockdown power than a 30-06 did I?you can twist my words any way you want do me a favor and do not make anymore posts directed towards me for any reason.OK?Dont waste your time because i will never respond to you again.

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Ok, fine, play dumb. Its right there in that post, made BY YOU! You said you gain only a small amount of knockdown power from the Monster Mags. I proved you wrong. It looks to me like the vast majority of your experience with rifles and shooting is from paper ballistics and magazines.

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270. for Moose?

'' lol if you cant hit a MOOSE at 400 yards with a 300 win mag you have no buisness hunting,also the 300wsm and 8mag have a much more managable recoil if that is an issue.''

I'll tell you one more thing, there's a significant difference between hitting a moose at 400 yards and hitting a moose's vitals at 400 yards. Also, an 8mm Magnum probably would have more recoil than a 300 Win. Mag seeing as how it is more potent, generally speaking.

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.270 for moose

I have never hunted moose before, but one of my mentors is the late Jack Occonor, and look at how successfull his hunting career with the .270 was. I bet with proper shot placement, and a heavier bullet such as a nosler accu-bond or speer trophy bonded, it should all work out.

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Location: Anchorage AK
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270. for Moose?

Moose hunting here in Alaska.
One of us uses a Savage 110 in 300 WM.
I use a Kimber 30-06.
The other of us uses a Rem 700 in .270 Winchester.

The effect on moose?
The same.
A .277 caliber 150grain Nosler Partition or 140 Accubond does the job the same as the .308 caliber 180 grain Nosler does from my 30-06 or Will's factory ammo from his 300winmag. We do get pounded less but he's younger than the other two of us. Wink

The long, heavy, tough bullet will work quartering away, broadside and head on. BTDT.

Notice, no rip-snorting Ultra mags or Weatherbys or new fangled short actions in the group. It isn't that they do not work. They do, but so do the so-called old guys. The 30-06 wouldn't still be around if it did not work. Same for the .270. If the 300 Winmag was so good at what it and the 270 do, why isn't the 270 on the same pile with the other old and can't get the job done calibers?

You'll be fine with the .270. Pay attention to your load. Get a good one and practice with it so you know where it will be at 50- 100- 150- 200- 250 and 300 yards. Moose aren't like deer or elk that can seem rocket propelled if they don't drop then and there with the first shot. They can cover ground pretty quick, but I have yet to go more than 100 paces to find where one layed down to sleep off feeling 'sick".

Good luck.

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270. for Moose?

I guess you are not afraid you are underguned while in bear country and not packing enough gun to defend yourselves like some others?Do you carry a sidearm while in bear country?

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270. for Moose?

I have only thought of myself undergunned once.

Big brown bear in the alders at 30 yards and I had my .375 H&H.

A Ruger #1...

I didn't have his ticket so I just slowly backed out of there.
It is almost as fast to reload as a bolt but not quite.
That not quite is enough for me.

But then again, I'm not Quicksand. Big smile

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