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.243 or 25-06

i'm still very new to the shooting/hunting game and trying to soak up all the info and advice i can. right now i own a weatherby .270 and a winchester 12guage. my girlfriend has recently shown an interest in shooting/hunting as well, but i really don't know enough to buy or even recommend a rifle for her.

i bought my weatherby intending to use it primarily on pig and deer, and she's looking for the same. she's of pretty small stature and i think the .270 and 12guage would be a bit too much for her to work with. from what i've read, both the .243 and 25-06 sound like very manageable and versatile calibers for youth and smaller stature persons. also heard that the 7mm-08 is fairly forgiving on the recoil.

i'm trying to find a middle ground where she can shoot comfortably and not get turned off right away by too much gun, but also something that she could eventually take out in the field with me for deer/pig. wouldn't hurt to add another toy for me to use when she's not using it either!

i've run several questions by you guys and gotten a lot of helpful info. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

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.243 or 25-06

The 25.06 would be my choice. She could use the lighter bullets, around 110 grains and still have the option for a heavier bullet later(an increase in recoil) if it doesn't bother her.
If you have access to a 243 or 25.06(unscoped preferred as you don't want her to get cut by a scope) to see how comfortable she is with the recoil.
Adding a scope , the extra weight reduces the recoil energy. Use ear protectors too, she will be far more relaxed and phycologically helps.

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.243 or 25-06

.25-06......................my wife is 5'3" and shoots much bigger cartridges than this. She refers to my .25-06 as a 'popgun'. The .243 is a great catridge but I think the .25-06 would be a better choice for her over the long run.

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.243 or 25-06

Hate to disagree with you guys but I think the best cartridge he mentioned for what he want's might well bee the 7mm-08. Never shot one but have had several 7x57 and there's not a lot of difference. The 25-06 doesn't recoil all that much but, for a new shooter that's also small,,,,,,small (?), percieved recoil can be as bad as felt and the 25-06 makes some noise.

If I thought it would be around or this gentleman was a handloader, I'd recommend the 260 rem or 6.5x55.

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.243 or 25-06

Well Don I read too fast and missed the mention of the 7mm-08 in the original post. You are right it is a great cartridge and I have guided young hunters that used it on a number of deer, bear and moose.

Can't go wrong with it, the .260 or the 7x57.

I also like the .257 Roberts and the .250-3000 (in the Savage 99).

Unfortunately the .260 is rapidly loosing ground, the .257 Roberts is hard to find, as are the 7x57 and the .250-3000. Maybe not if you live close to a Cabels's, but where I live they are non-existant.

I can always find .25-06 and .243 in the little country stores........7mm-08.....sometimes.

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.243 or 25-06

Another vote for the 7mm.08 here. Got a Boy thats 13 and built like a 12yo lil girl shooting it and no probs whatsoever...Got it presently shooting the 139 grain Hornady Light Mags and he has no qualms about it...And it does nice work on a deer and pigs...Lays them flat out

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.243 or 25-06
cam69conv wrote:
Got a Boy thats 13 and built like a 12yo lil girl shooting it

I hope he doesn't see your description of him or worse, I hope his friends don't see it. lol

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LMAO...He knows he's lil....Trust me...He makes up for it in ATTITUDE Laugh

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.243 or 25-06

I had a 243 in a remington model 7 but it had more recoil than my 7m-08 in a NF single shot.I own 2 of the single shots and fixing to buy another one for one of my kids.My girls started shooting them at 10 and one only weighed 50lbs.These are the handy rifles not the youth model.I hunt with one myself and really like it.We shoot the silver ballistic tip 140 gr.I killed a white tail at 300yds. and my wife killed a hog at 100yds and neither took a step along with other kills.I used to hunt with all the big rifles but now I will only own the 7-08 because it is nice to see the game fall in the scope instead of looking at the sky.I think model of gun has as much to do with recoil as the caliber does.Hope this helps.

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Welcome to BGH. Don't understand why the 243 is objectional. Is that factory ammo? I guess it doesn't really matter as I'm not a big fan of it. I use mine for coyotes. But it does have an undenighable track record on deer and antelope.

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Factory ammo .243 really is a questionable size cal for deer Don...It really doesnt have the punch...While yes its a nice fast accurate load...Ive seen many deer injured but not killed from a shoulder shot not penetrating..Just my opinion.. Really a .243 is a poor selection when you have access to just as light a recoil of a weapon and twice the punch as in the 7mm.08. Now Im not saying that a .243 cant kill a deer...Ive wacked a many of deer in the neck and behind the ear with them in my days and They drop like a stone...But a neck or head shot is NOT a shot for a novice hunter/shooter and they just really dont create a big enough exit for a blood trail from a good lung shot. Ill vote again for the 7mm.08