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That's a cheap way of hunting if they did do that. It always seems like whenever someone shoots a bull of this caliber, It always turns out to be pen-raised and they try to pass it off as wild. I hope this bull is legit cuz i'm tired of those stories with the pen-raised $100,000 bulls.

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Nice bull... strange name.

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BGOOD wrote:
The Bull is legit but your right about the mossback team. The guy saw the footage of the scouting tape and told the mossberg team he'd pay them a 100,000 dollars to put him on that bull. But the amazing thing is, its a public land bull!!!!!!

Well Public Land is not created equally.
Unless this bull had to put up with wolves and grizzly bears like the record elk he will knock down to Number 2, I don't think this bull is number #2's equally.
This Bull could never have got away from 4 legged preditors with that head gear and would never have reached this size in the real world. Utah is a nice safe game farm. Wolves and grizzlies hunt 24/7
The current world record was not seen by anyone but was found drowned in a large lake.
This was just another horn porn circus, something that is killing the great tradition of hunting.
IMHO

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I saw the bull after the harvest at our local ATV dealer.
They let the locals look at him and take pictures which was great.

My input, This bull is a beast. There is a lot of speculation about where it came from. It came out of nowhere and hit us like a freight train. This county has a lot of hard core hunters. Cougar hunters, horn hunters, deer, elk, bear, grouse, turkey etc. nobody saw the bull or had its sheds from previous years weird. It is a big mystery. The bull appears to be legitimate to our local Utah DWR.

Bottom line, A handicap hunter started hunting the bull on July15 with a special 30 day permit,

then the archery hunters with Utah Limited Entry tags on Aug 15 to Sept. 12, ,

then the Sportsman and Govenors tags start on Sept 1 with rifles hunting him. A LOT of hunters and scouts from Mossback and other local groups trying to get him with the 2 rifle hunters, at least 40 plus total guys with the 2 hunters!!

Then the LE rifle hunt starts Sept 13 and all the 2008 LE rifle elk hunters are looking for 11 days in the rut until that hunt ends,

then the LE muzzle starts and the bull is taken on day 5 of the LE muzzle hunt. Sept. 30, 2008

I think it is great that the public hunters and locals got a chance to chase possibly the world record bull for the days during their hunts. It was an unbelievable ride, where's he at, who will get him, it was crazy in this area.
Utah limited entry elk hunters on this unit generally wait a long time to get a tag. Archery 11 years, Rifle 15 years, muzzle 14 years. I am glad they all had their chance at the bull. The unit the bull was taken on generally had 340-380 bulls with one a year taken over 390.

Mossback pays a lot of guides and scouts to find big bulls. It costs a lot of money but when you have the coin to pay 20 plus guys 200 dollars a day to look for a bull then you will most likely kill the bull you are after. $$$$$$$$

In this day and age of cell phones, video cameras, scopes, wireless cards and email it doesn't take long to find a bull in the evening and bring in gear and guys 3 hours away and be there in the morning with a hunter who paid 100K for a tag he can hunt anywhere in the state of Utah from Sept 1 to Dec 31 for elk. Yep when money is no object you WILL kill big in Utah!!! I don't care what species you are hunting. $$$$ talks in 2008 with a tag like that. That's the truth.

Congrats to the hunter who killed the spiderbull and spent over $200,000 to do it.

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nobody has sheds, once he came out in public they could find him at any time,then things started getting crazy people talking some body slipped the secret and the whole world knew about it,then the bull up and dissapears nowhere to be found until things calmed down then BLAM the beast is dead..just a thought but utah has to keep producing monster bulls to bring that kind of money for one tag if they dont produce all that money goes away ,very good deal for udwr and mossback, very bad deal for everybody else as for everybody else getting to hunt that bull Dont be so sure they did.

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For all the hype and ALL the folk's looking/guiding/hounding the bull....fair chase? I don't think so. So so much for records.

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well no matter how you feel about spidey, you gotta admit he's an outstanding bull. He's a giant! And he is listed on Boone and Crockett's website as the new world record non-typical

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The bull is AWESOME, the hunt wasn't a fair chase hunt in my book.

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henry wilkins wrote:
The bull is AWESOME, the hunt wasn't a fair chase hunt in my book.

I was discussing this on another thread but as I said there you certainly have every right to feel that way but this bull was taken within the generally accepted definition of fair chase making this a legal harvest and a generally accepted fair chase hunt.

The problem with your feeling is where do you draw the line on the number of people hunting the bull? You'll find that once you dive into the issue it's much more complicated that it seems at face value.

I'm tickled that my state is producing such great bulls. I can't wait to draw my tag.

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You have it right, it is complicated for some.I usually go alone. DIY. And drives are accepted some places ,baiting,food plots. It's the commercializm and constant hounding of our wildlife that will be all our loss.IMHO

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