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Location: OHIO
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JPillar...I would hammer him with bait for the next 3-4 days...twinkies, ho-ho's, ect....do you have any hickory smoke flavored scent?? I'm no salesman for them but Bear Scents puts out a hickory smoke scent that works VERY well. If you call the references in the back of their catalog they will tell you what it does. The guys (references) that have used it as well as us swear by it. The one fella said his %'s went to about 95% boars being taken at their bait sites. Even the owner of the company says he can't explain it. The only thing he did say is that it's made different than all the other scents they make. They do have an 800# to call...so it'll cost you nothing to talk to them...ask for Brad. They are right there in your neck of the woods too!!! If you order any of it just order a small bottle with sprayer...that's all you'll need. That being said all of our bait sites had digital camera's with flash on them. Does not bother the bears at all. You can get that bear back in there by next week if you give him what he wants..and that's food!!! He'll have no reason to go anywhere else if you hammer him with food. If not...he will go elsewhere for the supply and demand. Once you get him there you'll have time to work the rest out. Do you use any type of fryer grease?? Ex: Burger King, McDonalds or KFC?? Even you're local mom & pop dinner will save grease for you. It's usually free...you need to use if you're not. I can't remember if your state allows it or not? I personally think if you can supply him with the food he wants you'll get him. He's been there before and they have a very good memory for a food supply...he'll be back!!! Thumbs up

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Location: central wisconsin
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thanks for all the replys. I am alot more confident now. i also just got these pics from last week. if I can get it to work again

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Location: ontario
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JP, really great pics. Gotta be the best I've seen yet from a trail cam.
Non-typ. The hunt here is still going on and the guys are doing OK, sorta. If I could just get them to shoot a bit straighter, the losses wouldn't be so great. 4 wounded and lost so far. Thats a terrible and embarrasing record for hunters. But the bears they have taken so far have been exceptional on average. Two first timers took a 250 lb and the other a 400 lb. Thats weighed on a scale so the weights are legit. One of the lost bears probably weighed near the 400 lb mark as well. Sure hate to see that stuff happen. Best of luck on your hunt. We're waiting on the good news from ya.

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Location: central wisconsin
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Thanks. Can I get one more piece of advice? Where on the bear is the best shot. I wil be using a 30.06 single shot. I have heard the shoulder and I have heard to wait until you can get a shot under the arm to get to the heart and lungs.
Sawbill, those sound like some nice bears you are getting how long is the hunt up there?

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Location: Alberta Canada
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JPILLER wrote:
Thanks. Can I get one more piece of advice? Where on the bear is the best shot. I wil be using a 30.06 single shot. I have heard the shoulder and I have heard to wait until you can get a shot under the arm to get to the heart and lungs.
Sawbill, those sound like some nice bears you are getting how long is the hunt up there?

http://www.theidahosportsman.com/bear%20anatomy.pdf#search=%22bear%20sho...

the link will help u on that

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Try this link:

http://www.theidahosportsman.com/bear%20anatomy.pdf

It is for bowhunters, where the shot is behind the shoulder blade to make sure the arrow penetrates. Bowhunters may wait until the near-side front leg is forward and the bear is quartered away.

This will work with a rifle too. But, with a 30-06, the bullet will go through the shoulder blade -- just remember the lungs are further forward than on a deer.

If you shoot it in the head, the skull may not be able to be measured for Boone and Crockett scoring.

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Location: ontario
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[Ahhhhh, 30-06 single shot! Ruger No 1? Good, good choice of action and caliber. Thats gonna make you wait for a good angle shot which is something I can't emphasize enough with my hunters. Federal has a premium load using the Norma Partition bullet. Also a top choice for the business end of things. I do most of my hunting now with my No 1's and would have a hard time going back to my bolts. Anyway, a broadside or slight angle away placing your shot just about halfway down his body and just in behind the front shoulder. If you're in a treestand, that'll give you a double lung and possible heart shot. And you must plan on a low exit wound to give you a blood trail.
Try to google 'black bear shot placement chart'. I have one that shows all the angles but if you do get the chart, ignore everything but the broadside diagrams. One last thing. Wait for the bear to get to your bait. You may hear him approaching or see him coming through the underbrush, but wait til he gets there and starts on the bait. If its a large animal, he'll grab a chunk and leave. Let him go and he'll return with more confidence so take your time and make sure on the hit.
I've got one more group coming in tomorrow morning and then I call it quits. The hunt goes into Oct but thats moose season for me. MY turn to hunt.

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SAWBILL, MY HUSBANDS HUNT STARTED THIS MORNING AND HE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED AS TO HOW IT GOES. HE WANTED ME TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ADVISE. WE ARE IN A AREA THAT YOU CANNOT RUN BEARS WITH DOGS AND ON SUNDAY SOMEONE DID SO IN OUR AREA. HAVEN'T CAUGHT HIM YET. BUT HE WAS CONCERNED THAT THAT MIGHT HURT HIS HUNT. DO YOU THINK A BEAR WOULD COME BACK TO HIS BAIT IF HE WAS CHASED BY DOGS?

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I'm sure its gonna upset the bears for a few days if it took place in the vicinity of your baits. However, if the baits have been well maintained and routinely baited for the past few weeks any bears that have been feeding regularly will certainly return. First back would probably be sows and her cubs, then the juveniles as they are the boldest . If this character continues to run his dogs in the area I'd say you have a problem on your hands.

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Well heres todays scoop, sat from 9 to about 6. i am in a ladder stand about 17 to 20 ft up. now thats a long day. Nothing came in until about 5pm. Then a nice size bear came in layed across the bait pile an fed. could of had a nice shot not sure of the size but I think it was well over 150. I remembered to have patience. i did video him for about 20 min. i figure I would hold back tonight and see what tomorrow bring. He was sure a nice looking bear very shiny coat. nice. i reviewed the video with some friends we figure he goes about 250. I think I will take him tomorrow if he comes back. for my first bear I think that would be a trophy to me. I don't have much time off work. I work in a papermill and work swing shifts. After this week I can only hunt the weekends.

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