Two Wolves Poached in Montana

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The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is offering a $2,500 reward for information about two wolves that were poached in the Flathead National Forest. The two wolves were found in two separate locations and both died of gunshot wounds.

NBC Montana quotes Fred Hodgeboom, president of Montanans For Multiple Use “If the executive government isn’t going to [delist wolves], the judicial isn’t going to do it, then the people are going to do it themselves.”

Last month two hunters killed another wolf in self defense while packing out an elk in the Flathead National Forest.

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Hot bed of controvesry

Man oh man what a sore subject.  If there is a more controversial subject in the conservation war than Wolves right then I would like to see it.  Its too bad that with all of these "experts" that it is so hard to come to agreement on this.  Its a sad state of affairs in any case.  My 2 cents would say let the people that live and breath the situation deal with the situation.  Too many outside influences from people who only guess how life is at the epicenter of the conflict.

hawkeye270's picture

CVC Wrote: "They are

CVC Wrote: "They are beautiful animals, but are no more special than any other animal.  Just an observation that probably means nothing, but look at the coyote compared to the wolf.  The coyote is hunted year round, hated by many and yet it survives without the protection of the federal government.  Wolves on the other hand need the nanny state to protect them and insure their survival."

-- But the thing is, they do not need the nanny state to survive any longer. They only needed man's help in introducing them. They have done a fine job of re-populating their old stomping grounds and are recovered to a point where they need to be managed like all other big game. If we control and manage thier population at reasonable levels then we can dampen the population cycles (boom and busts) in both wolves and their prey species. If they are not hunted and thus controlled than there are going to be big crashes in prey populations, followed by big crashes in wolf populations, the prey populations will rise again the the whole cycle will start over. Dampening those cycles is the best for everyone. "The greatest good for the greatest number", Gifford Pinchot.

CVC wrote: "I think wolves have a place in nature and we should protect them, but not at the expense of other animals.  They need to be properly managed through hunting, but not poaching."

--Spot on brother... I can not agree with you more!

CVC's picture

I agree with you about the

I agree with you about the wolves not needing the government to take care of them anymore to a degree.  My point is that states have a year round hunting season for coyotes with no bag limit.  Farmers and ranchers kill them on site and even poison them and yet they survive.  The wolves on the other hand need government intervention to prevent their decimation and extinction. 

WesternHunter's picture

I'm just saying

I'll just say this - We've succeeded in removing or reducing vital species that once played a critical role in wildlife management.  Wolves played and currently can still play a nessesary role in the management of wildlife.  Enter the rancher and farmer into the wild west and we make it that much more complicated.  Therefore that means wolves need to sometimes be killed in self defense too or too protect livestock.  I would not be one to kill a wolf for no reason.  But I do realise there may be times when it is nessesary for protection.  Poaching?  That's not good for any of it.  I'll leave it at that.

ecubackpacker's picture

I'm not advocating poaching

I'm not advocating poaching at all. I'm saying it's probably going to happen if the current situation isn't resolved and the states given the right to manage the wolves so they can conduct hunts if they see fit.

ecubackpacker's picture

Mr Hodgeboom is right in his

Mr Hodgeboom is right in his statement. If the gov't isn't going to take the right course of action and delist the wolves for management by the states, then individuals are going to poach the wolves. The gov't is going to make law abiding citizens become criminals. They'll be force to protect their herds and keep their families safe. In the process of doing this, they'll leave the carcasses in the woods in fear they will be persecuted.

The gov't is investigating the two hunters who shot wolves in self-defense. I know it's the right thing to do, but why would someone come forward if they see the current view towards the killing of wolves, even if it is self-defense.

With the de-listing, the agencies would be able to manage the wolves in the proper way. I belive it could be beneficial for "some" wolves to remain  in the wild, but they have to be managed and even culled if they get overpopulated or threaten people and livestock.

Chuck-n-Alaska's picture

I'll never under stand some

I'll never under stand some peoples mind set elk and deer feed people not wolves. De-list them and get rid of them. If the wolf worshippers want to ogle a wolf let them go to Ted Turners ranch where they are protected.

Elk 2 wolves 0

CVC's picture

I think that a lot of these

I think that a lot of these wolf worshippers and that is what they are, probably have never seen a wolf in the wild, but have some romanticized notion of a wolf from tv.  Funny how these same people don't want man interferring with nature, but are okay with man reintroducing the wolves. 

They are beautiful animals, but are no more special than any other animal.  Just an observation that probably means nothing, but look at the coyote compared to the wolf.  The coyote is hunted year round, hated by many and yet it survives without the protection of the federal government.  Wolves on the other hand need the nanny state to protect them and insure their survival. 

I think wolves have a place in nature and we should protect them, but not at the expense of other animals.  They need to be properly managed through hunting, but not poaching.

gatorfan's picture

After reading the other

After reading the other article about the two guys that were surrounded by that pack of wolves and eventually ended up shooting one, I can see why someone would shy away from turning themselves in.  I'm not saying it's right, I can just see why someone would dispose of the wolf and continue on.  Those guys are still being investigated and, in my opinion, they were just protecting their lives and the lives of their horses. 

If these cases were blatant acts of poaching, shame on them!

There are a lot of guys out here in Cali that feel the same way about lions as a lot of guys feel about the wolves.  They consistenly post the 3 S's theory.  Shoot, shovel, SHUT UP!

Sounds like these guys forgot their shovel! 

Ca_Vermonster's picture

No CVC, I agree with you.  I

No CVC, I agree with you.  I am no friend of the wolf, and I do wish the federal government would allow hunting for them.  However, if it's illegal, it's illegal.  Period.  I have to think though, that if they were to open a season on them, that might ease the tensions enough to make this happen less often.

BikerRN's picture

Disagree

Ca_Vermonster,

I will have to disagree with you a little in that while some things may be illegal one can be perfectly justified and morally correct in violating the law.

As far as I'm concerned this wolf issue may very well be the Second War of Northern Aggression.

Biker

CVC's picture

Perhaps some will say I have

Perhaps some will say I have no right to weigh in because I don't live with the wolves.  I don't have a say because it isn't my stock or game that is being killed, but I think I do.  Regardless how you feel about the federal government and the usurptin of state rights by not allowing the states to manage the wolves, killing a wolf illegally is still poaching and still criminal and I do not condone.

We cannot take the law into our own hands everytime we disagree with the federal government or even local regulations.  No one should support the illegal killing of wolves.