Remington Fires Back at CNBC

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In an hour long documentary titled Remington Under Fire, which began airing last night (October 20th), CNBC levels serious accusations against the Ilion NY company used by hunters for generations.

CNBC Senior Correspondent Scott Cohn contends through a series of documents and expert witnesses that the Remington model 700 trigger mechanism has been defective since its creation in the last 1940's. Perhaps even more serious is the CNBC accusation that Remington has known about the defect and has refused to recall the model 700, affecting over 5 million rifles since the beginning of production. The documentary's website and future air times can be found here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/39554936/

Shortly after the documentary's release, Remington fired back with a new website (www.remington700.tv) that seeks to show their side of the 700 story and highlight inaccuracies in the CNBC story. The site is composed of various videos that highlight problems with the expert witness in the documentary as well as 100s of other videos about the 700 and safe firearms practices.

For instance on the CNBC show Jack Belk, one of Cohn's expert witnesses, states that there is “No credible argument” that the 700 trigger mechanism is safe. However on Remington's website a video shows the same Jack Belk testifying under oath that “the gun” during testing did not fire in any position other than when the safety was in the firing position and the trigger was pulled.

As a hunter and reader of BGH, you probably have either shot, owned, or been around a model 700. What has your experience been?

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Ive owned one of these rifles and it does have a problem on the early modles

On early modles you cant open and close the bolt with the safty on and that where the problem lies on the one i had on two seprate ocasations the gun discharged and my fingers were not even close to the triger this is my story so be sure to be safe and know where your muzzle is pointed

jim boyd's picture

I have owned several

I have owned several Remington 700's and they have performed flawlessly.

The 700 is literally one of the actions by which others are judged.

Gunsmithing is something I know little about - but here is what I can say - my 700's have been great firearms - and - have been very accurate rifles.

I have moved to Savage now as my favorite centerfire, largely as the result of the Accutriggers - but I will say this also...

On the .243 Reminton 700 I had most recently, I read about how to adjust the trigger and did so.

I followed all of the appropriate safety guidelines and ended up with a 4 pound trigger with very little creep - and it was a deadly accurate deer rifle.

It was responsible for numerous harvests and was one of my all time favorite centerfires.

If you leave it to the media - any part of it - they would have you believe that all rifle and pistol manufacturers are not reliable and could care less about the people that purchase their products - when in fact, exactly the opposite is true in most cases.

All are not perfect but neither are all car manufacturers... if that is a fair analogy.

I would have another Model 700 in a moment and if the right deal comes along, I will take it... in fact, I am working on a horse trade for one right now.

ecubackpacker's picture

I don't believe it for a

I don't believe it for a second. You don't have to read any further than the first line which includes these four letters, CNBC. This biased, liberal media is at it again. This is their attempt to blacken the Remington name and undermine gun companies. Well, if they want to ruin a gun companies reputation, who do they go after, Remington..of course?

I currently own 2 Remington rifles and there is no telling how many I've owned in the past, maybe 5 or 6 more. Not to mention all the Remington rifles owned by members of my hunt club and friends. I have never had a problem with any of the Remington rifles I have owned, nor have I been told of a problem from them. I have adjusted the triggers on the two rifles I currently own down to 2 1/2 lbs of pull. I have never had the trigger accidently go off, even after taking all of the creep out of the trigger.

Some problems that occur with these triggers are probably a result of poor maintenance. That is a sure fire way for a trigger to get gummed up and not function properly. Actually, that is the first thing I like to do after I buy a rifle, get the cleaning kit out and clean all of the factory grease out of the trigger and bolt. Once cleaned, I spray all the parts with graphite to keep them in working order and free from dust.

The contradictory testimony from this so-called expert witness is laughable. It's funny how people will say one thing when there isn't anyone pressing them for the truth and tell the truth when under oath. Nothing like the threat of jail time to keep them honest.

CVC's picture

I don't get it.  It seems

I don't get it.  It seems that this is a problem that if it does exist should be able to be easily recreated and documented.  How can a problem like this exist for so many years and now just being reported?  I guess if I had seen the problem twice first hand, then I would know what side of the issue I was on and it wouldn't be remingtons.  Ive owned the 700 and fortunately didn't have a problem.  I'd like to believe it is not true and i am not saying it is, but with other corporations haveing product problems that they knew about and didn't try to fix makes me view all large corporations wiht a jaded eye.

ecoroamers's picture

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I to have a Remington 700BDL .270, which I have used every year, for around 40 years, the same rifle.  My dad, before me, used nothing but a 700BDL .270 which I still have, and both rifles have always worked perfectly.  There has never been one instance of either weopon firing while in the safe position.  The trigger mechanism on my rifle has 150lb. pull and my dads has about 148 lb. and its at least 5 or six years older than mine.  These two rifles are taken apart and cleaned thoroughly at least once a year, if not more, and there has never been any signs of excessive wear or defective workmanship in the trigger area, or any other area of the rifles for that matter.  I believe it is a one sided witch hunt from someone who has nothing better to do with their time.  Tell them to try concentrating on a real issue like the homeless or starving people right under their noses.

Ca_Vermonster's picture

I think this was a one sided,

I think this was a one sided, very targeted piece of reporting.  They only had one person representing Remington's side, and they used an "expert" on guns who had not even worked on a Rem 700 before.  I do think they had a chance to put it to rest by just admitting the problems and agreeing to fix them, however I also believe that some of the incidents were caused by aftermarket tweaking done by the hunters.  I myself have a 700 BDL, and the trigger pull is about 150 pounds.  I want to get it lowered, but you can bet I will be taking it to an actual gun smith to have it worked on.

hawkeye270's picture

I am a bit divided on the

I am a bit divided on the subject. Around the campfire I am a serious proponent of the Remington Model 700. I believe it to be the best all around factory rifle in production. My favorite rifle is a Model 700 chambered for the .270 Winchester cartridge. These rifles are accurate and dependable. The problem is that I have seen first hand, two Remington 700's go off when they weren't supposed to. Niether time was the person's finger even near the trigger guard. One rifle went off when the user switched the rifle from fire back to safe. The other malfunction took place while cartridges were being cycled through the rifle to unload it. The safety in this example was on the fire position (a human error) but the trigger was never pulled. The rifle went off when the bolt locked on a round in the chamber. This obviously shouldn't have happened. So like I said, I don't know where my heads at on the 700. It is my favorite rifle but it is scary that it may have a serious flaw. Just keep those muzzles pointed in a safe direction!!!